i just sold my 6 channel infinity. i guess they are allright for speakers but i using it on subs sucks big time they have such a low dampening factor that it made them sound like crap, muddy well u get my point //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif). Kicker is good if you can get that