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[jordon]

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Set crossovers and slopes first. Do you understand the phases that different slopes give you?

Then do T/a. Then EQ.

Dont ever let anyone tell you to EQ first. T/A and X/O change your phase and phase changes frequency response

I just know slopes I guess are the roll off for your octaves of your speakers. Best way I can summarize it.

 

[The Camry]

I just know slopes I guess are the roll off for your octaves of your speakers. Best way I can summarize it.

oh boy, you have a lot to learn. :3 you have my number so dont be afraid to ask any tuning questions you have. Read those links i sent you. They are very important.

Understand slopes and how they affect things is crucial.

 

[jordon]

oh boy, you have a lot to learn. :3

I've started reading stuff. Haven't gotten in very much depth. My alpine has an auto tune feature. And hoping that will take care of most of the work and I can just dial it in from there.

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[The Camry]

I've started reading stuff. Haven't gotten in very much depth. My alpine has an auto tune feature. And hoping that will take care of most of the work and I can just dial it in from there.
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Auto tune, never works. Dont even try.

 

[jordon]

Auto tune, never works. Dont even try.

I don't expect to be point on. Just a starting point.

 

[The Camry]

I don't expect to be point on. Just a starting point.

Eh, even then. im not a fan.

The Essentials of Sound Quality IMHO - Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum

That covers ALOT. post 12 has a very important part for staging. Pretty much. center stage with low frequencies >1000, is dependent on Arrival time of sound wave. IE: the closer speaker, you hear first. Thats why you Delay speakers with T/A so that they arrive at your ears at the same time. High frequencies give you center stage when both speakers(or mids, or tweeters or whatever is playing those frequencies) are playing all frequencies at the same loudness.

Because of different distances and how soundwave lose amplitude(loudness) as they travel, You generally have to lower the volume on your closest drivers. This where an RTA comes into play, although you can do it with pink noise and some tricks.

 

[jordon]

Eh, even then. im not a fan.
The Essentials of Sound Quality IMHO - Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum

That covers ALOT. post 12 has a very important part for staging. Pretty much. center stage with low frequencies >1000, is dependent on Arrival time of sound wave. IE: the closer speaker, you hear first. Thats why you Delay speakers with T/A so that they arrive at your ears at the same time. High frequencies give you center stage when both speakers(or mids, or tweeters or whatever is playing those frequencies) are playing all frequencies at the same loudness.

Because of different distances and how soundwave lose amplitude(loudness) as they travel, You generally have to lower the volume on your closest drivers. This where an RTA comes into play, although you can do it with pink noise and some tricks.

Thanks I'll for sure give that a read. I think the mic to the dsp is also an rta hopefully.

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[xr650jkallen]

What's odd in my truck and I may be tuning all wrong, but I have to lower the volume of my passengers side mid. I guess because it's more on axis to me. Tuning takes a lot more time than you think lol so be sure to have enough free time when you set down to dial it in.

 

[The Camry]

What's odd in my truck and I may be tuning all wrong, but I have to lower the volume of my passengers side mid. I guess because it's more on axis to me. Tuning takes a lot more time than you think lol so be sure to have enough free time when you set down to dial it in.

On axis vs off axis definitely comes Into play

 

[The Camry]

On axis vs off axis definitely comes Into play

Also have a notebook on you. If you find settings you like. Record them. Nothing is more annoying than having a great tune, wanting to tinker. Changing things and then forgetting what your settings were and never being able to find that good tune again

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[xr650jkallen]

How high did you have the esk's mids crossed?

 

[The Camry]

How high did you have the esk's mids crossed?

80-3(or 4)k.

Honestly, they are terrible for midbass. They are large, high efficiency mid range drivers. They have enough midbass to blend well to have front stage IF you know how to tune, which i know(some) but they will never give you that kick in your chest thump. I think at the end, i had them at 100hz actually but my sub can play midbass really well so it flows well. Notice how at 700 hz. it skyrockets up to like +8 db at 1khz and onwards. this makes them VERY peaky, a peak i could never eq out because i simply didnt have a powerful enough EQ. Thats not to say these dont sound really good, its just that, You gotta tune em right.

 

[The Camry]

Thanks I'll for sure give that a read. I think the mic to the dsp is also an rta hopefully.
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[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

Mini DSP is a cheap option for 4way active, or the PPI 88r

 

[The Camry]

Mini DSP is a cheap option for 4way active, or the PPI 88r

Ive been reading and considering the minidsp personally. Im not sure what to think of it

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