Im tired of hearing it

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

JL W6 is overpriced... OK, lets see. The W6 is a SOUND QUALITY SUB so lets compare it to other SOUND QUALITY SUBS. This is just from ONE site, I'm not even including the Hertz Mille cause you wont find it online. The W6 has won more titles and awards then any of these drivers and handles more power then 80% of them. Dont say SSA and the FI Q have anything on these woofers in the SQ department. The only one this list really cheaper is the IDQ(And the Dayton which I didnt list cause its not on this site), there is no comparision in output between the two.

12W6v2.. $399

WoofersEtc.com - 12W6V2 - JL Audio 12" DVC Subwoofer

ARC Flat line.. $319

WoofersEtc.com - FL12D4 - ARC Audio 12" 1000 Watt Dual 4-Ohm Subwoofer

Dynoaudio.. $1299

WoofersEtc.com - E1200 - Dynaudio Esotar 12" Audiophile Subwoofer

Focal K2.. $1099

WoofersEtc.com - 33KX - Focal 13" 800 Watt DVC K2 Power Subwoofer

Focal Polyglass.. $429

WoofersEtc.com - 27V2 - Focal 11" 600 Watt Polyglass Subwoofer

Helix W12.. $324

WoofersEtc.com - W12 Competition - Helix 12" 700 Watt Subwoofer

IDQ.. $250

WoofersEtc.com - IDQ12V3.D2 - Image Dynamics 12" IDQ Version 3 Dual 2 Ohm Subwoofer

JBL GTI.. $340

WoofersEtc.com - W12GTi MKII - JBL 12" 4000 Watt Competition Subwoofer

Morel Ultimo.. $850

WoofersEtc.com - Ultimo 12 - Morel 12" SQ/SPL 2 Ohm 1000 Watt Subwoofer

Morel SC.. $450

WoofersEtc.com - Ultimo SC 122 - Morel 12" 2 Ohm SC series Subwoofer

This is in the Dome so say what you want.

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[disturbed471985 5,000+ posts]

The flat line IMO is right there with the JL... Plus I would much rather support ARC then JL.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Woofers etc is the only place to get subs? This isn't a really good comparison, plus, you can make any sub and SQ woofer if you set it up right. SQ comps have been won with woofers that aren't considered SQ woofers. Of course it's naturally easier to get SQ will an SQ oriented woofer, my point is you can make almost any woofer sound really good if you know what you are doing. I think JL's sound good personally, but I won't ever fork out the cash to buy one new.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Woofers etc is the only place to get subs? This isn't a really good comparison, plus, you can make any sub and SQ woofer if you set it up right. SQ comps have been won with woofers that aren't considered SQ woofers. Of course it's naturally easier to get SQ will an SQ oriented woofer, my point is you can make almost any woofer sound really good if you know what you are doing. I think JL's sound good personally, but I won't ever fork out the cash to buy one new.

Im at work so i used the site that works the fastest on our junk computers. And WE has a lot more SQ options then most sites. I agree that most subs can sound good, but good and great is a difference. SQ is personal taste, we all know this. I tried to compare apples to apples here

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I know, but it's not going to change people's opinion of JL. Too expensive for what most want to do with them I feel.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I know, but it's not going to change people's opinion of JL. Too expensive for what most want to do with them I feel.

Agreed but it also depends on what forum your on at the time. I havent been on this site long but to me it seems most on here, not all just want to get as loud as they can for as cheap as they can. Nobody really cares about how it sounds. Also most seem to think as loud as it can sounds good.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I'm not saying everything in JLs line up is good cause its far from it. They have more "slap our name on it" stuff then they have winners

 

[nateberrier 10+ year member]

People rarely buy JL subs for sound quality reasons. Its the ghetto boner brand. DEY WUNT DAT BANG LEIK BOUT FITTEEN GURRRILLLUH IN DA TRUNK. So for that price and that application it is overpriced.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

People rarely buy JL subs for sound quality reasons. Its the ghetto boner brand. DEY WUNT DAT BANG LEIK BOUT FITTEEN GURRRILLLUH IN DA TRUNK. So for that price and that application it is overpriced.

Thats what making a brand to big does

 

[av83 10+ year member]

Holy smokes, the Morels have a 5.1" vc??!!

 

[CHEMMINS 10+ year member]

The Morel Ultimos Are the SQ sub to beat.......the JL cannot come close to comparing.

 

[TaylorFade 10+ year member]

People who are serious about SQ aren't going to run JL. People who are serious about SPL aren't going to run JL. People who are serious about their daily system aren't going to run JL.

Where does JL fit in? With ignorant retards. That's where.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

People who are serious about SQ aren't going to run JL. People who are serious about SPL aren't going to run JL. People who are serious about their daily system aren't going to run JL.
Where does JL fit in? With ignorant retards. That's where.

OK then explain why the ISACA champ runs JL? I'm pretty sure Scott could afford whatever amps he wanted. JL has more wins in MECA or ISACA then anyone else. Are the competers serious about SQ? Your statement is ignorant

 

[TaylorFade 10+ year member]

OK then explain why the ISACA champ runs JL? I'm pretty sure Scott could afford whatever amps he wanted. JL has more wins in MECA or ISACA then anyone else. Are the competers serious about SQ? Your statement is ignorant

He runs W6's? Or did you want to get into a debate about amp 'X' vs. amp 'Y'? You're not talking about Scott Buwalda, are you?

Is he perhaps sponsored by JL? Maybe he can afford any amps he wanted, but is required to run JL. Ever consider that? I sat in or looked at just about every single SQ car at USACi finals. And I didn't see a single stitch of JL anywhere. I know people VERY serious about SQ and JL is minor league to these people.

My point was that JL isn't the best SQ woofer. It's FAR from a good SPL woofer. And it's less than passable for a daily groundpounder. So... who buys them? People who don't know any better. The uninformed. The masses.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

He runs W6's? Or did you want to get into a debate about amp 'X' vs. amp 'Y'?
Is he perhaps sponsored by JL? Maybe he can afford any amps he wanted, but is required to run JL. Ever consider that? I sat in or looked at just about every single SQ car at USACi finals. And I didn't see a single stitch of JL anywhere. I know people VERY serious about SQ and JL is minor league to these people.

My point was that JL isn't the best SQ woofer. It's FAR from a good SPL woofer. And it's less than passable for a daily groundpounder. So... who buys them? People who don't know any better. The uninformed. The masses.

I dont believe he is sponsored by anyone.... Mark Eldridge?