ID Horns?!

[Dozy_production 10+ year member]

sorry for jacking this thread but what would be the ideal active xover for the id pro 1 horns?

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

idx 24 or one with simular features

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Yup...something that will handle a highpass xover frequency of 1khz or lower, and has atleast 24db/oct xovers. You don't want less than 18db/oct, otherwise you'll have to push the xover frequency too high to make it worthwhile.

And, as audiolife mentioned...imaging is excellent even with the horns aimed at your knees. Reason being that the horns use the dash almost as an extension of the horn mouth...so the sound sort of "rolls" up the dash.

 

[newb 10+ year member]

So that means I can basically piece it together and run it as a passive setup? Which mid would work best with idx 24 crossover? Something with excellent mid and midbass response and be able to keep up with the cd1pro is what I am looking for. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

So that means I can basically piece it together and run it as a passive setup? Which mid would work best with idx 24 crossover? Something with excellent mid and midbass response and be able to keep up with the cd1pro is what I am looking for. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

No, you can not piece together a passive horn setup. The only horns that will work off of the ID CS1.X passive xover are the CD1e's. If you go with the CD1Pro's or CD2Comps, you must run active which will require 4 channels of amplification for a 2-way fronstage (horns and mids) and an active xover. The IDX24 is an active crossover, which is no longer in production if I recall correctly.

 

[Dozy_production 10+ year member]

Just looked at the IDX24 and thats nearing the 500 dollar range. I know ebay has the pyle and boss crossovers but, you suggested getting an xover under 100 dollars, which brand do you suggest? (ie audio control ?)

 

[newb 10+ year member]

No, you can not piece together a passive horn setup. The only horns that will work off of the ID CS1.X passive xover are the CD1e's. If you go with the CD1Pro's or CD2Comps, you must run active which will require 4 channels of amplification for a 2-way fronstage (horns and mids) and an active xover. The IDX24 is an active crossover, which is no longer in production if I recall correctly.

Cool. Thanks for clarifying that up with me.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Just looked at the IDX24 and thats nearing the 500 dollar range. I know ebay has the pyle and boss crossovers but, you suggested getting an xover under 100 dollars, which brand do you suggest? (ie audio control ?)

Like I said in another thread...I would avoid audiocontrol's analog pieces. Not user friendly at all and they don't allow underlapping or overlapping. You can try them if you wish, as they do allow 24db/oct slopes...but they use resistor packs rather than a pot for setting the xover frequency...which means you'll need a resistor pack for every xover frequency you want to try, and everytime you want to change the xover frequency you'll have to back there, open up the xover, swap out resistor packs, reassemble the xover, then go listen again. Rinse and repeat.

The IDX24 is a great xover, and you can find them used for around $200. Another thing with the IDX24 is that it's a converted pro-audio piece, so it uses XLR connections rather than RCA connections. Not a *big* deal, just means you'll have to customize your RCA's yourself...not something everyone is into.

A great option is to sell your deck and pick up one that has the xover built in...like an Eclipse, Alpine or Pioneer.

 

[newb 10+ year member]

Just looked at the IDX24 and thats nearing the 500 dollar range. I know ebay has the pyle and boss crossovers but, you suggested getting an xover under 100 dollars, which brand do you suggest? (ie audio control ?)

Now thats a lot. For $500 you can basically get the cs1.6 setup new.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Now thats a lot. For $500 you can basically get the cs1.6 setup new.

Yes, but the IDX24 + CD1 or CD2 + good mids > CS1.6 in terms of performance aswell //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Dozy_production 10+ year member]

would a cda 7998 be enough for going active having a 5 band para eq? never mind ill use the search button. Sorry for jacking this thread in a way.

 

[newb 10+ year member]

Yes, but the IDX24 + CD1 or CD2 + good mids > CS1.6 in terms of performance aswell //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

so true.

 

[thadman 10+ year member]

The 7998 would have the necessary crossover capabilities, but not the EQ capabilities. An active horn setup needs at least 15 bands per side, but 31 are recommended.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

i wouldnt crossover from the deck unless you have alot of control from a middle seating position or driverside. turning a dial is alot easier than skipping through menues