ID Horns?!

[newb 10+ year member]

Does anybody have first hand experience with ID Horns? I need to know if I should get the mini horns or the regular ones. It is going to be installed in a '92 honda civic hatchback. Im looking to get the full comp set. I emailed and posted this up at ID forums, but no response yet...

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[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

I have the CD2 Pro Mini Horns (Illusion CH-1 Drivers)

mini horns are easier to work with....especially when space is an issue.

Once you go with horns you most likely will never go back to tweets //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[newb 10+ year member]

I have the CD2 Pro Mini Horns (Illusion CH-1 Drivers)

mini horns are easier to work with....especially when space is an issue.

Once you go with horns you most likely will never go back to tweets //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I was looking at your $800 setup. Nice!!! Im trying to build mine for under $1000 if possible. Here's what I have so far.

Eclipse cd8445

12IDMAX d2 v.3

Im currenly shopping for the amps and the ID horns comp set.

 

[Darth Audio 10+ year member]

In a Civic the minis are your best bet. And I agree w/ Slammed they sound great, the imaging is unreal. Maybe if I could get my kids to leave the house I could afford a pair!

 

[newb 10+ year member]

In a Civic the minis are your best bet. And I agree w/ Slammed they sound great, the imaging is unreal. Maybe if I could get my kids to leave the house I could afford a pair!

Hey thanks. Minis it is.

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

ive heard both. and going from regular components to eaither fullbodies or minis is going to be insane. as long as you have the crossover and a bit of EQ, you are golden. the crossover is way more important than the eq.

eaither way - they sound amazing. if you dont think you will have much foot\leg room, get the minis' - if you have a big suburban or somthing, go with fullbodies. honestly, they both sound amazing. i have fullbodies in my saturn SL2, and my buddy has minis' in his 88' cutlass.

here is most of my install;

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139980

 

[newb 10+ year member]

ive heard both. and going from regular components to eaither fullbodies or minis is going to be insane. as long as you have the crossover and a bit of EQ, you are golden. the crossover is way more important than the eq.
eaither way - they sound amazing. if you dont think you will have much foot\leg room, get the minis' - if you have a big suburban or somthing, go with fullbodies. honestly, they both sound amazing. i have fullbodies in my saturn SL2, and my buddy has minis' in his 88' cutlass.

here is most of my install;

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139980

Thanks for the link! I'll check it out. Do you think the Eclipse cd8445 should be sufficient for the horns, crossover and eq wise? I just ordered an Orion-4002 for the cs1.6 and an Orion 600D for my 12IDMAX d2 v.3....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif :naughty: All this will be going in my daily driver.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

If you are using the CS1.6 set, then the only thing you'll need to use the HU's crossover for is to highpass the mids. The passive network that comes with the set will lowpass the mid and includes an eq network and level attenuation for the horns. That set uses the CD1e horns, which use motorola piezo's (read: cheap driver) rather than actual compression drivers like the other horns. The CD1e's actually don't need a crossover because the piezo's actually have a natural roll-off beginning at around 1.2khz (which is why the passive xover doesn't include a highpass for the horn). They also aren't nearly as efficient as the other HLCD's.

The CD1e's are very entry level. They can sound good if setup properly, and that 8445 should have adequate EQ ability. But stepping up to the CD1's or CD2's w/ a good mid and using the 8445's internal active xover would be a huge step in terms of performance, if you have enough amplifier channels to float a 2-way active frontstage. Look used you can find great deals on the CD1's and CD2's.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

mini's dont play as low as full body horns too. i would only go mini if space was an issue

 

[newb 10+ year member]

If you are using the CS1.6 set, then the only thing you'll need to use the HU's crossover for is to highpass the mids. The passive network that comes with the set will lowpass the mid and includes an eq network and level attenuation for the horns. That set uses the CD1e horns, which use motorola piezo's (read: cheap driver) rather than actual compression drivers like the other horns. The CD1e's actually don't need a crossover because the piezo's actually have a natural roll-off beginning at around 1.2khz (which is why the passive xover doesn't include a highpass for the horn). They also aren't nearly as efficient as the other HLCD's.
The CD1e's are very entry level. They can sound good if setup properly, and that 8445 should have adequate EQ ability. But stepping up to the CD1's or CD2's w/ a good mid and using the 8445's internal active xover would be a huge step in terms of performance, if you have enough amplifier channels to float a 2-way active frontstage. Look used you can find great deals on the CD1's and CD2's.

Wow. I didnt know that. So Im guessing if I go with either the CD1's or CD2's Im going full active setup correct? I thought the 8445 didnt have that feature and only the 8455 did? Maybe Im wrong..??

 

[dak0ta_g33k 10+ year member]

well the cd1e setup is no longer produced but i see a lot of it up for sale on ebay with fullbody horns. since i don't want to add/upgrade another amp to go active, i settled for cd1es for now.

 

[newb 10+ year member]

well the cd1e setup is no longer produced but i see a lot of it up for sale on ebay with fullbody horns. since i don't want to add/upgrade another amp to go active, i settled for cd1es for now.

Yeah thats what Im thinking about doing right now. Im not sure just yet though, I've been wanting to try an active setup for a while now..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

Will there even be an audible difference between the three horns to an average listener?

 

[Dozy_production 10+ year member]

also, you would install the horn under the dash where the feet go. Because they are horns the imaging is still ok?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Wow. I didnt know that. So Im guessing if I go with either the CD1's or CD2's Im going full active setup correct? I thought the 8445 didnt have that feature and only the 8455 did? Maybe Im wrong..??

Oh..yeah...for some reason I was thinking you had the 8455.

So, active out of the HU might not work for you. But you can still find affordable external active xovers to use (less than $100).

But, for simplicity sake, you could try to find a CS1.6 set.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

also, you would install the horn under the dash where the feet go. Because they are horns the imaging is still ok?

its alot better than ok. only thing that will be close to it in regular speaker terms is a syncronus set of speakers in equal pathlength kick panels even then they lack the energy a horn brings.