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[Incriminator 10+ year member]

lol. sorry didnt mean to start any shit with ya. as you might know i was quite a big fan of my 20.1 before i sold it. good shit no doubt, and the company is legit.
but anyways, can i get some insight on this?:

lol. sorry didnt mean to start any shit with ya. as you might know i was quite a big fan of my 20.1 before i sold it. good shit no doubt, and the company is legit.

but anyways, can i get some insight on this?:

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Originally Posted by IgnoreMe

when nick says "1500wrms"...is that just a thermal rating or mechanical as well?

im assuming if its an extremely conservative rating, hes talking about thermal and mechanical (ie, has some stiff *** spiders etc)?

Yes, that rating is thermal, but it will take a good bit of power! 1500 RMS is just what I think is a good warranty number, if the coil is burnt I know its abuse. Yes, it does have 3 stiff spiders on it, they are designed to not break in as much. We have one competitor do some testing for us, he has over 850-900 burps on his woofers 4000-4500 per DP and they are still almost a stiff as when they came out of the box.

yes i know, its mostly box dependant, but im wondering if you put a 15" in a standard 4 cube box @ 32 (just a general recommendation for most drivers by companies for that woofer size) could you get it to reach xmax with the 1500w rating. or are they somewhat like the BTL (from what ive read) that you need to design around efficiency if your trying to max the woofer out with its rated 2k watts due to its stiff suspension.

Well, once again 1500 watts is a warranty number. They can and do take more power, most of which is box dependant. I think the answer your looking for will come in time as people will get them and comes to opinions there self.

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Originally Posted by vasilios

Nick told me that the least amount of power youd want to drive one with is 800-1000 watts.

I asked him if my BX1500D Hifonics amp was adequate enough to drive a 15" DP in a Powered 4 Sound Snail Shell enclosure and he said it was.

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Originally Posted by IgnoreMe

but, now were stuck pondering...whats does "adequate" mean to him? lol

to me adequate means you can max out the sub with that power you have. i mean i can take a sub with a stiff suspension and not be able to get it moving very good, then swap a different sub with a softer suspension in the same enclosure and get it to bottom out. i like having control over the sub, without having to build a huge *** box to gain efficiency.

*yes, the freq played, is a big part of whether of not you will bottom out the sub. but im talkin about a daily application, where music varies, not a spl build where im burping not to far from tuning and not getting any movement

Well, basically my as a rule of thunb on average the least you want to go with our drivers is 60% of rated power! That wil get you moving! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[thunder9500 10+ year member]

well i got a kx2500 whose birthsheet said 2960 @ 2 ohms. which is why i was asking about the rating. i was basically trying to get a comparison between a btl versus the same size dp. i know the btl's are rated for 2k, but mechanically and thermally can take a lot more. for example ngsm put a memphis 4k on a 15" one in an oversized box and it was used for daily (put up a 148+ on music). and from the videos i saw, it was playing just fine, no mechanical issues or thermal issues.
wish i could buy both and compare but thats not a financial possibility

Fi is great stuff, I am friends with all the guys over there and they all put a ton of pride in their products. I personally haven't owned a Fi woofer and can't speak for what it can or can't do.

However I can tell you that your kx2500 will be an excellent match for the DP woofer. With the right box, you should get some mad wangin!

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

nick: thanks i appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. i understand about the warranty issue. im not a shady person. i have yet to burn up a woofer. even under warranty, when shit hits the fan and i ****ed up, i lick my wounds and accept it. but i do understand that other people might be quick to try to take advantage of the situation, especially if the sub is rated at say 2500w and the person is clipping with with rated power lol

thunder9500: thanks man. i think im actually getting scammed at the moment for a BL, so i filed a claim and am moving on. 15" btl's, dp's and 18" btl's are all in the running for me as im tired of being bassless. btw, i bought one of your 20.1's a long time ago, happy to say its in the hands of another satisfied IA believer //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Brian Owens 10+ year member]

So does this basket over come the mechanical excursion limitation that the 12 spoke has?

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

So does this basket over come the mechanical excursion limitation that the 12 spoke has?

I think Nick's spacer adds a ton of clearance, I'm sure he can tell you exactly.

 

[casper97ta 10+ year member]

Very beefy looking subs. I really like everything about them except the basket. It just doesnt do anything for me looks wise. I would love to hear one of the 21"'s.

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

Very beefy looking subs. I really like everything about them except the basket. It just doesnt do anything for me looks wise. I would love to hear one of the 21"'s.

I think you need to read IA moto and then rethink what you just said.

 

[pioneerpimp 5,000+ posts]

how much is the 21" going to cost?

 

[Incriminator 10+ year member]

PM me for a price!

 

[casper97ta 10+ year member]

I think you need to read IA moto and then rethink what you just said.

I know what IA is all about, And I'm not referring to making it flashy chrome or anything like that. I just happen to not like the look of that particular basket.

 

[pioneerpimp 5,000+ posts]

incriminator, need to clear inbox!

 

[jeremiah 10+ year member]

21" vs 12"

what size box dos the 21" need ported? and at what HZ?

 

[TheFiverMan 10+ year member]

so how long is it gonna be for he 18" and 21" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[jeremiah 10+ year member]

PM me for a price!

cant!! you have to many You Go Pig Man's!!..........that means (ygpm)

 

[jeremiah 10+ year member]

so just say how much the 21" is!!!!!!!!