I know you're askin for JL's and you want them cheap, but I have 2 Brand new 4Ohm DVC Alpine Type-R's for $300. I love JL's, but these sound better (from preference and experience) and are louder than most JL's. They're about the same RMS power wise as most JL's and they can handle more in terms of Peak wattage if you want to put another amp on them later. Hope this works for ya.