I need help!!!

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Guys I just wanted help on finding the speakers. Not whether or not lemans can build crossovers and or speakers lol

And I probably was just going to leave 2 of the channels out and run it as a 5.1 or I was just gonna get the Mirages to go on the side. Also I forgot to put the sub on there its the Destiny I believe...Still Morgan systems. I was extremley impressed with them!

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Paradigm = overrated ...

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif we have established, and maybe you can vouch for me on this next note that wharfedale makes probably the best value/performance bookshelf speakers on the market, at least in eariler times.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Guys I just wanted help on finding the speakers. Not whether or not lemans can build crossovers and or speakers lol
And I probably was just going to leave 2 of the channels out and run it as a 5.1 or I was just gonna get the Mirages to go on the side. Also I forgot to put the sub on there its the Destiny I believe...Still Morgan systems. I was extremley impressed with them!

ok ok, buy ur retail speakers, that's fine. BUT, i strongly encourage you to make your own subwoofer. get a decent driver (like an atlas 15''), make a box, and you'll have one heck of a driver that comepetes with the best of them, but not close to their 2 grand price tags (and much higher).

 

[nosaj070 10+ year member]

ok ok, buy ur retail speakers, that's fine. BUT, i strongly encourage you to make your own subwoofer. get a decent driver (like an atlas 15''), make a box, and you'll have one heck of a driver that comepetes with the best of them, but not close to their 2 grand price tags (and much higher).

Although in most cases I would agree with you, I would not in this one. His dad doesn't care how much it costs and DIY is still expensive as well as time consuming. If he has never built a box before it will take a few before its perfect. Port noise is always a posibility as is the appearance of it. I built my own and I'm happy, but if I had th emoney to burn i would buy a premade in a heartbeat.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Oh yeah, did I mention I'm an ***-hole ?

n00b.

You know nothing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[bean 10+ year member]

ok ok, buy ur retail speakers, that's fine. BUT, i strongly encourage you to make your own subwoofer. get a decent driver (like an atlas 15''), make a box, and you'll have one heck of a driver that comepetes with the best of them, but not close to their 2 grand price tags (and much higher).

curious..... How would you power that sub woofer up? You can't do it from the reciever.....

OBTW---- Plain MDF cabinets in my house........ f'n forget it.

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Yeah Lemans I'm not gonna agree with you on this one. That sub is 3 tens comparing to one 15. I'll take those 3 tens in SQ over 1 15 anyday!

I know a lot about car audio don't get me wrong, but I can't hook up that 4 ohm sub to my 8ohm output receiver either. It would destroy it in no time. And for bein' 16 lemans, I'll give you the benefit of the dought, you know what your talkin' about in some areas.

Also that sub the martin logan makes is almost better then my subs for petes sakes. It's just simply amazing and wouldn't mind throwing it in my car! They are great subs, alsmost to JL quality IN MY OPINION, so no one flips out on me.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I wouldn't trust Lemans anyways //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
Hooking up a 4 ohm sub to an 8 ohm receiver (in full range, mind you) and frying it ...

Buying a Pyramid car crossover for a home application (and not being able to use it because he didn't have a separate amp for the sub //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif ) ...

Saying that the 1/8 mile time should be less than half of the 1/4 mile time because acceleration drops off at higher speeds ...

Oh yeah, did I mention I'm an ***-hole ?

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif come on james, that was moths ago. how the hell do u remember that anyway? i know wtf i'm doing now, trust me.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

oh and FYI james, i didn't blow the amp afterall. just the fuse.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Yeah Lemans I'm not gonna agree with you on this one. That sub is 3 tens comparing to one 15. I'll take those 3 tens in SQ over 1 15 anyday!
I know a lot about car audio don't get me wrong, but I can't hook up that 4 ohm sub to my 8ohm output receiver either. It would destroy it in no time. And for bein' 16 lemans, I'll give you the benefit of the dought, you know what your talkin' about in some areas.

Also that sub the martin logan makes is almost better then my subs for petes sakes. It's just simply amazing and wouldn't mind throwing it in my car! They are great subs, alsmost to JL quality IN MY OPINION, so no one flips out on me.

to you and bean regarding the sub power, use a plate amp from parts express. yes the 3 10s r probably louder, but not as price/performance as a diy sub. on that note, i'm out to the garage to start on my new towers WOOT!

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

I'll take those 3 tens in SQ over 1 15 anyday!

I wouldn't. Size of the driver = nothing to do with potential SQ of that driver. Now, if you want to talk potential frequency response, alright...but this is all so box dependent that you'd need to know that before making any assumptions.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I wouldn't. Size of the driver = nothing to do with potential SQ of that driver. Now, if you want to talk potential frequency response, alright...but this is all so box dependent that you'd need to know that before making any assumptions.

i'd take a 15 over a 10 any day of the week even if it came with the pic of james' *** on it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

I know you all know what your talking about but I really think that a 10" sub could keep up a lot better then a 15. Not as much to move, etc. But the box was made just to the perfect specs according to Martin Logan... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

But yeah the martin logan is 3 tens in one box, comparing to one 15. I will take those tens. I'm sorry

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

but I really think that a 10" sub could keep up a lot better then a 15. Not as much to move, etc.

More Mms (moving mass) doesn't translate into greater transient response. Adire Audio has some excellent technical papers on this...enclosure specifications are much more important than the mass of the cone.

 

[bean 10+ year member]

That logan 3 ten enclosure............... Man, it'll knock your d!ck in the dirt. That thing is a bad *** sub!