I Just Hit It From Behind = (

[tehWorstest]

Well i am here and i dont care what you think.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Lovely, And brilliant. A prime example of what fine minds the youth of america don.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

that makes you the idiot, either for not reading responses in a conversation you interjected yourself into, or interjecting yourself into a conversation you had no to wish to participate in.
(there. I made it one sentence so you can comprehend)

INTERNET TOUGH GUY TO THE MAX! caps

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

Lovely, And brilliant. A prime example of what fine minds the youth of america don.

I suppose we can't all be like you, thinking we are so high and mighty. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

internet tough guy to the max!

i'm sure

 

[tehWorstest]

There's no reason for me to comment on your smart *** and unfounded statements any longer, carry on and you will be ignored.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I suppose we can't all be like you, thinking we are so high and mighty. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

I have not thought anything that is not backed by sound logic and thought processes.

I have not made any claims opining that I am "high and mighty" as you say. That would be a biased position. I don't do those.

If it appears that my argument is, in its nature, defaming you, then perhaps you simply do not have the ability to follow the thought process as I do.

If you understand the logic, it agrees with you and your stance when you comment by it. If you do not, its likely that arguments following principles that you do not understand could appear falsely contentious to you.

Does that anger you as much as it appears to? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

There's no reason for me to comment on your smart *** and unfounded statements any longer, carry on and you will be ignored.

Oh and kudos to quoting yourself in your sig //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[tehWorstest]

Oh and kudos to quoting yourself in your sig //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

i was wondering how long it would take for someone to catch that hahaha.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Needing the last word is a moronic concept.
If someone argues a point a rebuttal is logical. The only ones who argue "your just trying to get the last word" are the ones who's logic has holes (that they don't wish discovered). So they encourage the other party to stop the argument before they do discover the truth.

If you have a clear understanding and proof to back up you're logic then it is illogical to stop arguing untill that point is conveyed. Otherwise false information is conveyed.

That said when you are arguing a point proven false, it is logical to concede.

However, all audioholic has done is either dispute viable (however, minimal, evidence.) Or posit an argument as if I was defending it 3 years ago.

In the case the viable evidence is as follows:

1#: my personal testimony including information of the testimony of others.

2#: the physical likelihood that the situation I present is actually true.

3#: the lack of theoretical or empirical evidence that suggests otherwise.

He is arguing on certain fallible principles:

1#: That the person I was 3 years ago was vulnerable to attack as support for an argument.

2#: That I am the same person I was 3 years ago.

3#: That the opinion evidence of several professionals who have a different goal than I, have applicable interests and information in the matter which is ,in essence, subjective. Thus their course of action can be looked at as a model to judge mine by.

4#: that there is any evidence, theoretical or empirical that suggests the point is valid.

Since these premises are obviously flawed in one way or another he is simply finding eddies which he can plant is argument by arguing in a circle. It's like interjecting the question "does your mom know you are gay?" into an argument. All it does is stall the inevitable realization that if your logic was viable, you would be able to present an argument free of fallacy.

You say Im the one arguing in circles, but when I asked you to present even one single solitary piece of data from a reliable source, your reply is to turn that around and ask that I present the data. You claim Ive made up the argument that running multi-sized subs is a bad idea, yet I can and have shown multiple people, from those 3 years ago, that have made the same statements. And I have named two reliable people/experts who have discussed this argument previously. So its clear 1) I have not made up my stance simply to argue with you, and 2) even with you dodging my request for info, I have presented some of my own. Your claim, no doubt, will be I still have not presented enough, while you have, again, not shown one link, quote or reference that backs up that multi-sized sub setups show any viable improvement over the more traditional single sized sub setups. I think we've come to an understanding that you are allowed to 'prefer' what ever you want, as Ive never said otherwise... but your claim Im the one arguing in circles is simply unfounded.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

On the contrary. I'm not a troll.

Quoted for hilarity.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

You say Im the one arguing in circles, but when I asked you to present even one single solitary piece of data from a reliable source, your reply is to turn that around and ask that I present the data. You claim Ive made up the argument that running multi-sized subs is a bad idea, yet I can and have shown multiple people, from those 3 years ago, that have made the same statements. And I have named two reliable people/experts who have discussed this argument previously. So its clear 1) I have not made up my stance simply to argue with you, and 2) even with you dodging my request for info, I have presented some of my own. Your claim, no doubt, will be I still have not presented enough, while you have, again, not shown one link, quote or reference that backs up that multi-sized sub setups show any viable improvement over the more traditional single sized sub setups. I think we've come to an understanding that you are allowed to 'prefer' what ever you want, as Ive never said otherwise... but your claim Im the one arguing in circles is simply unfounded.

First of all my argument is not that it is an advantageous method over single subs. You will not find evidence supporting this because its a given. It will usually be a better idea to go with single sub setups because it's less complicated to receive a better response.

Second, as I said, the opinion of an expert with different goals expressed in that opinion is as good as no opinon, because its obviously biased toward that goal. You won't find any empirical evidence on EITHER side. Read that again, its important. "YOU WON'T FIND EVIDENCE ON EITHER SIDE."

Because it's not an issue. It may be more complicated but who cares?

Every game ever invented is proof that humans like to make things harder than they have to be.

A flat response is a flat response. PERIOD and objective. The way you achieve that response is subjective. My point is that it CAN be done with multiple design drivers. And that too is a given. And fairly obvious.

And what is most important to realize about this argument is that it is SUBJECTIVE.

It's very likely that it would be much easier to achieve a flat response with a 10" and 12" RE XXX rather that 4 Lightning audio 10"s. It's very install dependent and the variables are too numerous to draw conclusions without analyzing the system in detail.

Thats why you won't see evidence on it. It's just as install dependent as the debate between ported and sealed or bandpass. No one can say indefinitely, that one is better than the other because the variables are to numerous to draw a valid conclusion.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I thought I wasn't funny...?

On the contrary, watching you try to validate your e-bully trolling is quite funny. Its also funny watch the guy with a thousand insults get so worked up when someone else decides to play their own game with them.