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[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I fathom your point completely, It's that the erratic responses of 2 different woofers combined yeilds a more erradic response. And i'm saying its bogus because you cannot possible know how 2 given subs' responses will complement each other. For you to sit hear and pretend you can at all, makes you truely look like a jackas$.

First of all I know what Fs is, (its not that advanced of a concept, but good try at trying to make me look stupid.) I was referring to the Fs because a Bigger diameter sub per given model will tend to peak at a lower frequency than a smaller one in free air. So technically speaking, yes bigger subs usually hit lower frequencies more efficiently. Of course an enclosure changes all that.

Are you that stupid? By that logic, for that matter, why do I only use 3 10's now instead of 4. First because of space restrictions, second because I don't need that much volume, third because it's none of your fvcking business what I do and don't want to put in my car. Would i attempt another multi-sub setup? Most likely if it wasn't too improbable. I got that 13 **** near free with the 4 10's So why the hell not try and hook it up with the rest? It turned out! big whoop, move on fegglette. Sure it doesn't necessarily give you better response, but it doesn't necessarily give you worse response either. There are so many variables thats like saying a ported box is designed badly just by looking at it.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif who cares, my dad is a pathological liar, don't think he knows he lies? This entire discussion had 0% relevance to the topic i've been discussing in this thread. so don't try with your perverse stupid and flawed little audioholic logic to make sense out of things you can't grasp, you've already made yourself look foolish enough.

"I fathom your point completely, It's that the erratic responses of 2 different woofers combined yeilds a more erradic response. And i'm saying its bogus because you cannot possible know how 2 given subs' responses will complement each other. For you to sit hear and pretend you can at all, makes you truely look like a jackas$."

Ah yes, the one in a million reply once again. You're right, I cant possibly know your system didnt buck all conventional wisdom on mixing subwoofer sizes. It must be your enormous brain that allowed you to create a system that defies physics. Go ahead smart guy, provide a link to any reputable speaker expert that recommends mixing subwoofer sizes. Just one. I bet you cant. Dont take my word for it, find an expert who says your idea is a good one. Any well respected expert or reference material that says its necessary, or even just a good idea, to utilize two different sub sizes to handle the mere two octaves a subwoofer is required to play.

"First of all I know what Fs is, (its not that advanced of a concept, but good try at trying to make me look stupid.) I was referring to the Fs because a Bigger diameter sub per given model will tend to peak at a lower frequency than a smaller one in free air. So technically speaking, yes bigger subs usually hit lower frequencies more efficiently. Of course an enclosure changes all that."

If you know what Fs is, how can you make a statement like "Bigger subs can't necessarily hit lower notes better, but they do tend to have a lower fs." Tending to have a lower Fs means they do tend to hit lower notes with more authority. You admit as much when you stated 3 years ago you added the 13 to hit the lower notes better. Just an example of your erratic logic, to go along with your erratic freq response. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

" Are you that stupid? By that logic, for that matter, why do I only use 3 10's now instead of 4. First because of space restrictions, second because I don't need that much volume, third because it's none of your fvcking business what I do and don't want to put in my car. Would i attempt another multi-sub setup? Most likely if it wasn't too improbable. I got that 13 **** near free with the 4 10's So why the hell not try and hook it up with the rest? It turned out! big whoop, move on fegglette. Sure it doesn't necessarily give you better response, but it doesn't necessarily give you worse response either."

Yes, it does necessarily give a worse response. Ive stated why, you've simply replied with you built a one in a million setup that didnt. Again, your ego wont let you just admit it was a noobie mistake, and YOU move on. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

If you had room for 3 10's, you had room for one 10 and one 13... so why not? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif For the same reason you wont be able to find any respectable person in the field who corroborates your claim that its a good idea.

"jackas$"

"it's none of your fvcking business"

"***"

"fegglette"

"pops"

"idiot"

For someone who doesnt give a shit what I think, me questioning you sure has your panties in a bunch. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

my dad is a pathological liar

Like father, like son.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Another Long ass Audioholic Post. (as useful as usual)

Here is the deal, It doesn't matter what I say, it doesn't matter what you say.

You are still, when it boils down, doing nothing more than arguing in a nonsensical circle.

So lets look at this situation logically.

You claim I'm a pathological liar? and you think that you have justifiable evidence?

The situation in question, you claim I lied about, I stand by the fact that I didn't lie, I was told something and repeated it and acknowledged that the statement wasn't my own words or knowledge.

EEEEVEN if I knowingly lied about it, that is about 4 posts out almost 4,000. So logically, 1 out of 1000 statements are enough for you to determine that I have a habit of lying? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif Well aren't you the psychic.

I don't lie, you are an idiot. period.

 

[tehWorstest]

This was epicness started by me and continued by cot and audioholic. this thread is full of win.

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

Too long to read

 

[tehWorstest]

So back on topic, i ****ed her bumper up more than i thought, i bent the bumper in to the tailgate and left some marks o nthe tailgate too, she said she wasnt worried about it and i told her id take her to dinner to make it up to her and we were texting all day yesterday so my chances look pretty good.

 

[Dak446 10+ year member]

Worstenemy = fial

/thread

 

[tehWorstest]

Worstenemy = fial

/thread

lol shut up.

How you doin over at CACO without me ?

I heard shits been hittin the fan over there.

 

[Dak446 10+ year member]

Meh. It's alright. I've been working alot on my truck and stuff so I'm not on alot, plus school has me pretty busy, so I'm not on alot. It gets kind of annoying, but oh well, it's just teh interwebs

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Here is the deal, It doesn't matter what I say, it doesn't matter what you say.
You are still, when it boils down, doing nothing more than arguing in a nonsensical circle.

So lets look at this situation logically.

You claim I'm a pathological liar? and you think that you have justifiable evidence?

The situation in question, you claim I lied about, I stand by the fact that I didn't lie, I was told something and repeated it and acknowledged that the statement wasn't my own words or knowledge.

EEEEVEN if I knowingly lied about it, that is about 4 posts out almost 4,000. So logically, 1 out of 1000 statements are enough for you to determine that I have a habit of lying? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif Well aren't you the psychic.

I don't lie, you are an idiot. period.

I see my comment about like father, like son, really hit home.

 

[Dak446 10+ year member]

Audioholic. My truck defies physics too. Phuck you

I can haz 8" xplods and a 13w3? So I get good sound qualitiez

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I see my comment about like father, like son, really hit home.

If you consider being unable to come up with a logical dispute that statement, or a rebuttal thats not on the 3rd grade level of "I kno you are but what am I?"...hitting home, sure ya did! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

The difference between me and you in our arguments is that i will not allow you to escape a logical discusion and go off on some epic ca.com flamefest devoid of common sense and evidence. Based on the fact that if you can say something the right way people will tend to believe it no matter how ridiculous it is.

"So i'm going to say because you are in your 30's and argue on this forum as you do.

You probably live either alone or at your mom's house. Get a kick out of being a know it all prick and think its somehow amusing when you label yourself better than someone else. You probably work at a shitty job since you only seem to get REALLY riled up when people who don't know their elbow from their as$ buy really expensive equipment like I did, back in the day. Meaning you get pissed off when you cant afford simple equipment some people view as mediocre based on price. If that SUV in your SIG is your daily driver, that definitely holds true. So anytime someone with puerile knowledge getts a bunch of equipment that makes you jealous, but hooks it up in a stupid way (in your opinion) you look for every excuse possible to pick them apart so that your own life seems a little less pathetic. You'd probably, if you'd follow the course of history reply with some ridiculous accusation about someone besides me paying for the equipment. (with no basis of reasoning, because you don't need it. Just as much as you can be jealous enough to not believe I make the money I make, Others are likely to believe it due to their own jealousy.)"

See now that entire statement is likely false, or at least most of it. Maybe none of it is even close.

The point is, This is how you construct your arguments and statements about me. You feed off the fact that most people are stupid enough to make and believe assumptions just because they WANT to believe something is a certain way.

I've done it too, every time I come on this forum I browse thread titles for ignorant comments. Partially because I naturally have a hate for false information, partially cause I naturally like to make my knowledge useful.

So no I will not argue with someone who tells me that his personal opinion devoid of and fact, reason, or experience is grounds for an argument.

If you want to talk to me in a logical way, without that stupid BS flaming attitude, I'll discuss it with you.

However, its very likely you won't. You're behavior suggests that you don't really care what the truth is, and that at this point, you just want to believe that false construct in your head. Because, all other situations aside, the one you've constructed is the most amusing and easy to live with from your own point of view.

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[King_corral 10+ year member]

holy balls how many days is there thread? is this like the longest non stickied thread?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

The difference between me and you in our arguments is that i will not allow you to escape a logical discusion and go off on some epic ca.com flamefest devoid of common sense and evidence.

Oh, so you did actually produce any evidence what so ever, from a reliable source, that mixing subwoofer sizes creates an advantageous situation? I guess I missed that reply, point me to it, would you? You talk a lot, but in the end you are guilty of that which you scorn... hot air with no facts to back them up, only your personal opinion based on your golden ear effect. And that doesn't even discuss the whole you know jack shit about cars argument.
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[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

So back on topic, i ****ed her bumper up more than i thought, i bent the bumper in to the tailgate and left some marks o nthe tailgate too, she said she wasnt worried about it and i told her id take her to dinner to make it up to her and we were texting all day yesterday so my chances look pretty good.

Sounds like this may be your way in, lol.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Is my setup now shitty? have all the setups i've heard been shitty? Have all the multi-sub setups you've heard been shitty? How many have you heard? Have you heard a multi sub setup that didn't have Sony X-plodes in it? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Arguing that 2 subs produce noticeably destructive response patterns is like saying your front and rear speakers sound like shit together because one is a comp set and one is a coaxial set. (it's possible, but more often than not, there is no noticeable difference.)

My evidence. Almost everyone on this forum runs multiple sized speakers that play the same frequency. It doesn't do anything wrong. If I chose to emphasize the low bass frequencies with a 13 and the higher bass frequencies with 10's.... so what?

You are spewing off random bullshit that different drivers together intrinsically create an unfavorable response! Show me proof of that! You CAN'T, cause its BULLSHIT! YOU MADE IT UP!!!! The fact that I've heard good setups and it sounded comparable doesn't need evidence. Do you question every setup you see on this site because you suspect panels rattle? No so leave me alone. You are just making yourself look more and more idiotic.

And as far as the last sentence.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif