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[quote name='Dirtrider4eva']i had a very similar unit. identical processing. sounds pretty good. a little bright up top. new tech isnt always greater than old..
im running a cd7000. before this i had some weird double din with a detach gps in it. it was a weird fun unit.
as for pre out voltage i vote 4-5V is perfect. my us acoustics amp cant handle 8 anyhow.[/QUOTE]
never said the newer units are better than the old. just said im a tech guy and i like having newer stuff. the screen resolution, menu, layouts, themes, colors, features of the headunit, and style of it is what i love about my 8400.
[quote name='neo_styles']I actually just traded off my 8400 DD in favor of a JVC KD-A95BT. While I do miss the 8-band EQ (and had finally gotten settings where they were sounding great), the SQ on this $200 JVC is leaps and bounds ahead of the Pioneer. In my experience, Pioneer decks always favor low frequencies, Alpine favors the high, and Eclipse love midrange. This JVC covers all three extremely well and its sense of staging and imaging just pushed it over the top. Its 5-band graphic EQ, though, leaves a little to be desired.
Adding my two cents in the equation (especially after this experience), the deck should really be the first thing you look at replacing when searching for SQ. You can have some of the nicest amplifiers and speakers/subs in existence, but great amplification is only going to amply a bad source. There's a reason the processing world is doing so well right now. Hell, for $350 these days, you can take a JBL MS-8 and make almost any consumer-level deck sound better. @PapaGeno21 ; can vouch for this especially. He's seen tremendous gains in what his system is capable of after putting it in his system and he's by no means all about the essques.
On the other side of the argument, you can't take a great deck and poop amplification and expect to get good results, either. These days, it really doesn't matter if it's Class A/B, D, G, H, etc since there's great and awful examples of each in the industry. Swapping out my A/B Boston Acoustics GT-2125 for a Zed Leviathan was in itself a giant leap ahead for my sub stage. That Boston is now happily driving my passive components. But don't expect to get a Shark, AP, VVME, whatever budget amp and expect it to perform like a Sinfoni. It just won't.[/QUOTE]
thats the difference though. a single din and a double din. the double dins nowadays arent purely meant for sound quality, rather they are for entertainment. i coudlnt switch out my 8400 for anything on the market right now that would offer me what i want(dont need a navigation unit because i have my iphone that i mirror onto my headunit)
the 8400 for me has everything. it produces very good sound (for me and everyone else that hears my system)
has tons of great features that i love and use everyday seamlessly. such as mixtraxx, iphone mirroring/app mode. its probably the best looking double din on the market and has a fantastic screen resolution. if there was something has all of these features along with a really good sound processing software with time allignment and all thast good stuff then i would consider switching it out but for now im keeping it as i love all the entertainment that it offers
im running a cd7000. before this i had some weird double din with a detach gps in it. it was a weird fun unit.
as for pre out voltage i vote 4-5V is perfect. my us acoustics amp cant handle 8 anyhow.[/QUOTE]
never said the newer units are better than the old. just said im a tech guy and i like having newer stuff. the screen resolution, menu, layouts, themes, colors, features of the headunit, and style of it is what i love about my 8400.
[quote name='neo_styles']I actually just traded off my 8400 DD in favor of a JVC KD-A95BT. While I do miss the 8-band EQ (and had finally gotten settings where they were sounding great), the SQ on this $200 JVC is leaps and bounds ahead of the Pioneer. In my experience, Pioneer decks always favor low frequencies, Alpine favors the high, and Eclipse love midrange. This JVC covers all three extremely well and its sense of staging and imaging just pushed it over the top. Its 5-band graphic EQ, though, leaves a little to be desired.
Adding my two cents in the equation (especially after this experience), the deck should really be the first thing you look at replacing when searching for SQ. You can have some of the nicest amplifiers and speakers/subs in existence, but great amplification is only going to amply a bad source. There's a reason the processing world is doing so well right now. Hell, for $350 these days, you can take a JBL MS-8 and make almost any consumer-level deck sound better. @PapaGeno21 ; can vouch for this especially. He's seen tremendous gains in what his system is capable of after putting it in his system and he's by no means all about the essques.
On the other side of the argument, you can't take a great deck and poop amplification and expect to get good results, either. These days, it really doesn't matter if it's Class A/B, D, G, H, etc since there's great and awful examples of each in the industry. Swapping out my A/B Boston Acoustics GT-2125 for a Zed Leviathan was in itself a giant leap ahead for my sub stage. That Boston is now happily driving my passive components. But don't expect to get a Shark, AP, VVME, whatever budget amp and expect it to perform like a Sinfoni. It just won't.[/QUOTE]
thats the difference though. a single din and a double din. the double dins nowadays arent purely meant for sound quality, rather they are for entertainment. i coudlnt switch out my 8400 for anything on the market right now that would offer me what i want(dont need a navigation unit because i have my iphone that i mirror onto my headunit)
the 8400 for me has everything. it produces very good sound (for me and everyone else that hears my system)
has tons of great features that i love and use everyday seamlessly. such as mixtraxx, iphone mirroring/app mode. its probably the best looking double din on the market and has a fantastic screen resolution. if there was something has all of these features along with a really good sound processing software with time allignment and all thast good stuff then i would consider switching it out but for now im keeping it as i love all the entertainment that it offers
