Jack Bauer 10+ year member
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How much better would the Pioneer 8600mp be with 24 bit DAC as opposed to say a high end alpine deck in terms of sound quality? Thanks, have to make a decision very soon.
Fair enough. I have looked at everything else but this was the issue that I wasn't sure about is all. Do you have any suggestions?You can't look at just the DAC and make any valid judgments about one being better than the other. You have too look at the entire design of the unit, not just a single entity.
I am not sure. I think it is probably a combination of:What makes the Eclipse decks better do you think?
I agree, Alpines have sounded pretty good in the past too but I don't trust their new ones.I am not sure. I think it is probably a combination of:
quality of the design
quality of the componentry
quality of the pre outs(NOT just the voltage)
Eclipse has just historically sounded better to my ears than other decks out there(until I bought the 8250).
Your ears may tell you differently, of course.
There are too many factors at play in a car to say that one deck sounds better than the other unless you switched out one deck for another in the same car. Did you do that? If the 2 decks were in 2 different cars, then I would be skeptical. Car accoustics, install quality, etc play too large a roll.I would never just equate DACs with how good a deck will sound. I have used this example about a bazillion times:
I have heard an entry level dual 1 bit eclipse clearly sounded better than a 24 bit clarion costing nearly 2x as much. IMO, if you are really interested in great sounding decks, you would be shortchanging yourself if you did not atleast check out Eclipse decks(assuming you have access to them), IMO.
Those 2 decks were in the soundboard right next to each other, both set flat.There are too many factors at play in a car to say that one deck sounds better than the other unless you switched out one deck for another in the same car. Did you do that? If the 2 decks were in 2 different cars, then I would be skeptical. Car accoustics, install quality, etc play too large a roll.