Historians think George Bush Sucks

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

Pew Research Center poll released last week found that the share of the American public that approves of President George W. Bush has dropped to a new low of 28 percent.
An unscientific poll of professional historians completed the same week produced results far worse for a president clinging to the hope that history will someday take a kinder view of his presidency than does contemporary public opinion.

In an informal survey of 109 professional historians conducted over a three-week period, 98.2 percent assessed the presidency of Mr. Bush to be a failure while 1.8 percent classified it as a success.

Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded that the current presidency is the worst in the nation’s history. Another 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush presidency in the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of American administrations.

At least two of those who ranked the current president in the 31-41 ranking made it clear that they placed him next-to-last, with only James Buchanan, in their view, being worse. “He is easily one of the 10-worst of all time and—if the magnitude of the challenges and opportunities matter—then probably in the bottom five, alongside Buchanan, Johnson, Fillmore, and Pierce,” wrote another historian.

I like pie charts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Something else I was reading today suggested that we're begining out plunge into the second great depression. I can sort of see where this notion comes from with the housing market bust, energy costs soaring, food prices soaring....and this week's potential goverment bailout of Fanne Mae.

Thoughts?

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[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Well, I know that ignorance is bliss and that as long as the public doesn't freak out about a change in the economy, it will turn out much better in the end.

Propagandizing the thoughts of a depression is stupid as fuck.

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

Historians have no voice in the matter until he is actual history. They're just talking out of their ***** right now about something they don't even understand - the present.

 

[memphisman 10+ year member]

Historians arent the only ones who think bush sucks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[bumpin buick 5,000+ posts]

Well, I know that ignorance is bliss and that as long as the public doesn't freak out about a change in the economy, it will turn out much better in the end.Propagandizing the thoughts of a depression is stupid as fuck.

couldnt have said it better

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

Historians have no voice in the matter until he is actual history. They're just talking out of their ***** right now about something they don't even understand - the present.

Well I think their age old arguments are that history repeats itself and you have to understand where you've been before you know where you're going.

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

Well I think their age old arguments are that history repeats itself and you have to understand where you've been before you know where you're going.

So who are we comparing someone as great as Bush to? George Washington?

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

There's absolutely nothing that says Americans won't be able to operate at higher oil/food/energy prices. As it stands, we are currently a country that embodies the word gluttony. We, as a nation, eat way too much with obesity on the rise. We drive huge *** suv's. I'm sure more than one of you is stupidly wasting energy with something extra turned on in your house right now. Let's face it, it won't hurt us to cut back.

When people and news start to spread unfounded ideas though, it sends a shockwave of panic throughout everyone and they begin to act irrationally with their money. This is turn makes the economy very unstable on top of any other problems that might have actually existed.

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

There's absolutely nothing that says Americans won't be able to operate at higher oil/food/energy prices. As it stands, we are currently a country that embodies the word gluttony. We, as a nation, eat way too much with obesity on the rise. We drive huge *** suv's. I'm sure more than one of you is stupidly wasting energy with something extra turned on in your house right now. Let's face it, it won't hurt us to cut back.
When people and news start to spread unfounded ideas though, it sends a shockwave of panic throughout everyone and they begin to act irrationally with their money. This is turn makes the economy very unstable on top of any other problems that might have actually existed.

You sir, belong in the Who Ruined The Economy thread. I could use the support. lol

 

[jco1385 5,000+ posts]

so do i //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

You sir, belong in the Who Ruined The Economy thread. I could use the support. lol

I was in there at first, but I got too frustrated with the stupid and ignorant people.

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

Um, Tiger Bass, while I agree with you on some things, if you look at the economy now and at the start of the Great Depression there are a surprising number of parallels. Stocks driven up on credit buying and speculation ie. oil, loans people can't pay back ie. mortgage crisis, plummeting dollar value and extremely low consumer confidence. I don't think we will have another depression, but I do think we will see the biggest recession since the depression.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Um, Tiger Bass, while I agree with you on some things, if you look at the economy now and at the start of the Great Depression there are a surprising number of parallels. Stocks driven up on credit buying and speculation ie. oil, loans people can't pay back ie. mortgage crisis, plummeting dollar value and extremely low consumer confidence. I don't think we will have another depression, but I do think we will see the biggest recession since the depression.

Now, I didn't say there weren't problems with the economy, but broadcasting it only creates fear and uncertainty which will SURELY make it worse.

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

Now, I didn't say there weren't problems with the economy, but broadcasting it only creates fear and uncertainty which will SURELY make it worse.

If the parallels are there they have every right to broadcast it, it is news, it could be the biggest news event of the decade. If we do go into another depression, 9/11 will pale in comparison as a news event and tragedy.