Hey you evolutionists...

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

At the end of the day I want you all to know no matter our disagreements I respect your decisions to believe what you want to believe. you don't see me attacking any of you personally, I never will. So before you all get all upset lets keep this professional. We are talking about religion and science, not people and a person's character, now lets keep it going for sake of the forum

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

So if I said I was a savior, would that make me crazy?

 

[Johnny Drama 5,000+ posts]

con·vic·tion Listen to the pronunciation of convictionPronunciation:

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1: the act or process of convicting of a crime especially in a court of law2 a: the act of convincing a person of error or of compelling the admission of a truth b: the state of being convinced of error or compelled to admit the truth3 a: a strong persuasion or belief b: the state of being convinced

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You're trying far to hard. You really should google trolling and read up more.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

So you admit it makes NO sense, admit that it doesnt even seem to make sense. You also admit that after taking this "placebo" you have better results now? So wouldnt that just be by your actions and decisions? Nothing that another power did?
Youre not helping your arguement.

well everyone just said they can't get into where matter comes from and says "oh that's something else, we can't prove that stay on topic." So they are admitting they don't understand. so are we all not helping our arguments or just me?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I don't understand the point of your assertion. This discussion isn't "What does Jordan believe?" This discussion is, "Is the theory of evolution a plausible explanation for the beginnings of life and it's continued development?"
I'm not going to go asserting my beliefs in this conversation because they have no place in it. It's like arguing with your wife about finances and her bringing up you not putting the toilet seat down.

However, if you really must know how I feel, I do not put my complete trust in any specific theory on the creation of life, because there is no way to tell for sure. There are lots of theories, each with their own convincing cases, and most have some factual evidence to back them up. It's impossible to say that any of them are completely correct.

Exactly, your theory is 'I dunno'. Your belief is only relevent here to the point of showing people that while you act like you have all the answers, the truth is all you have is vague criticism, and no answers at all.
And now, after all your 'evolution has many fallacies' arguments, you are gonna say "there are lots of theories, each with their own convincing cases, and most have some factual evidence to back them up". lmao

So we start discussing the most celebrated and scientifically tested theory on the delopement of life on this planet (evolution) nd you come in here arguing how it has all these fallaices. But when pinned down, you dont really know what you think is right and alot of theories hold merit? You just want to argue to hear yourself talk. You dont even have your own theory, just want to try and shoot down everyone elses (including the majority of the human scientific body on this planet) just to make yourself look or feel smart. You aren't accomplishing either.

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

If Jesus died for our sins to be forgiven, why cant we sin? They will all be forgiven, so why not take advantage of that?

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Ok, to explain very clearly why I used the word matter:

He asked me a question about how the first atom appeared.

That is why I used the word matter rather than life; he was asking a cosmological question, not a biological one.

Now I doubt that this confused anyone; more likely, it is pointless straw-grasping.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

So if I said I was a savior, would that make me crazy?

you can say whatever you wanna say.

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

o an evolutionists, answer me this. if evolution "was" true, why did it stop??? evolution is a constant development. but nothing has changed in the past 2k years. if we evolved from primates, why did we stop? if everything was made from evolving, why has it stopped?? you cant answer with a logical explanation bc there is none. evolution is a farce. an yall laugh an call christians stupid. look in the **** mirror.

our ear canals are getting smaller, our appendix does nothing, we can live with one kidney, one lung, without most of our intestine, no tonsils...... plenty of things are evolving and thats just with us. animals are evolving as well.

all this might of been mentioned but i didnt feel like reading the entire thread.

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

well everyone just said they can't get into where matter comes from and says "oh that's something else, we can't prove that stay on topic." So they are admitting they don't understand. so are we all not helping our arguments or just me?

We will never find out where matter came from. Christians say God created everything.

Answer me this, its a legitimate question. What if God isnt real? What if this whole religion thing was actually fake? What would you do? How would you feel? Dont tell me that "Thats not possible" or "I know it is real". Im looking for an actual answer.

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

If Jesus died for our sins to be forgiven, why cant we sin? They will all be forgiven, so why not take advantage of that?

actually i watched a special on the history channel about religion and there are a few experts that actually say the whole "sinning is bad" thing is wrong. they say exactly what you just said that he died so imperfect man could be free to sin without punishment.

to me, a non believer, even that sounds like a load of crap. just sounds to me like a christian changing the rules again to make their life easier like with most things religious.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

oh I've tested God for myself and I will admit, my mental mind CANNNOT MAKE SENSE OF CHRISTIANITY. ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO. i'm fine with that. I know in my heart, mind, and spirit that when I look at my life before christ and after Christ, its much better on this side. You can't understand that and that's ok, i don't expect you to. I'm okay with my assessment, you don't have to be. You have to make your own choices and I respect that. The question is do you have the balls to respect my decision as well

Now who is ebing righteous? Not very christian of you.
For the record, you dont know me, my back ground, or how I was raised. I was a choir boy. I learned that my belief wont be based on whether or not I think my life will be better following one or the other, but based on wht is TRUTH. You have al;ready stated you are not interested in truth, as you 'have no intentions of changing'... so we are to presme you thin k you are divinely knowledgeable above anyone who disagrees with you and your 'faith' in something you have absolutely no way to prove. And Ive known an awful lot of christians who tried to convince me tey didnt need any more proof, but Ive never met one I believed in that regard. Apparently one of the duties of being a good little christian is to close your mind.

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

you can say whatever you wanna say.

Would it make me crazy?

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

that's putting evolution in a cute box where it has a start and an end. but evolution shouldn't have a start and an end. evolution should be continuous. so why give it a "start time" with living matter. at some point the living had to be not living. so how'd it go from living to not living and where did the non-living matter come from? come on scientific method, lets figure it out!!!! I got questions I got tests!!!

http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotID=451

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experiment

Thats how life began. EZ PZ.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

that's putting evolution in a cute box where it has a start and an end. but evolution shouldn't have a start and an end. evolution should be continuous. so why give it a "start time" with living matter. at some point the living had to be not living. so how'd it go from living to not living and where did the non-living matter come from? come on scientific method, lets figure it out!!!! I got questions I got tests!!!

The theory of evolution does not attempt to explain the first presence of matter, so it makes no sense to critique the theory of evolution on that aspect. This thread is about the theory of evolution.

Once again, god does not mean that evolution is impossible, so to address evolution from a first cause standpoint makes little sense.