Hey you evolutionists...

Then why are you Jewish?
Part of it is how I was raised. Part of it is the whole secular side of the culture that surrounds it. Part of it is the moral tradition and discipline that I was taught as to how to be a good person. Part of it is the hope that something is watching over me. With this tradition comes the belief in a higher power.

Most religions encompass more than a deity and spill over into whole cultures. And not all of that culture is meant to brainwash and destroy progress.

 
So just to re-iterate....the reason you're Jewish has nothing to do with evidence at all. As you have acknowledged, it is largely a result of indoctrination and "hope".

 
evolution doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If we as a species evolved from apes, did we all do it at the same time? Wouldn't there be some in-betweens? Some continuing to evolve? I will say there seem to be more hot chicks out there than there were when I was growing up...
Speciation. Happens all the time.

 
This is going in circles. Culturally I was given an impression of god. By choice I chose to accept this god as I am more religious than my parents. By faith along with lack of evidence otherwise I choose to maintain belief. And along the spaghetti monster lines there is no specific form of god in my religion so who knows. Maybe for shits and giggles god likes to take that form.

I have about a half hour of work left today for you to belittle and berate me. Get the good ones in.

 
I admit I have faith. But I also do not believe acceptance of faith = rejection of evidence. I see no wrong with having a balance.

If you feel you are better than me because I have faith congrats.

 
Part of it is how I was raised. Part of it is the whole secular side of the culture that surrounds it. Part of it is the moral tradition and discipline that I was taught as to how to be a good person. Part of it is the hope that something is watching over me. With this tradition comes the belief in a higher power.
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This is going in circles. Culturally I was given an impression of god. By choice I chose to accept this god as I am more religious than my parents. By faith along with lack of evidence otherwise I choose to maintain belief.
You are essentially admitting that your faith would be different based on how and where you were raised. You happened to be raised/taught Judaism, so that's what you believe. Had you been raised in Islamic tradition, you would be a Muslim. In India you would likely be a Hindu right now.

 
Well at least you are now admitting that theism is NOT as evidence-based as atheism is.
And what evidence is atheism based on? I was under the impression that one becomes an atheist because of a lack of evidence in regards to the existence of a "god."

 
I admit I have faith. But I also do not believe acceptance of faith = rejection of evidence. I see no wrong with having a balance.
If you feel you are better than me because I have faith congrats.
And what evidence is atheism based on? I was under the impression that one becomes an atheist because of a lack of evidence in regards to the existence of a "god."
If you refuse to believe a given proposition due to a lack of evidence, then your refusal is still built on an evidentiary basis. I think DevilDriver is pointing to the stark difference between a belief or lack thereof that is based on evidence and one based on faith. Faith, almost by definition, is belief in the absence of any evidence. It is the antithesis of evidence, and this, it seems to me, is what wu36ca is failing to understand.

 
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