Hey Everyone, 2006 G35c getting ready for a build!

[06g35meister 10+ year member]

Hey all, my name is Kevin and I have a 2006 G35 that im about to put a full SQ-based system in. Ive read and read and read for weeks and finally decided to join. Here WAS my plan about 3 days ago, but im coming to the realization that I may be spending WAY to much for what im getting:

-JDM Bezel (of course)

-Kenwood Excelon DDX814 or DNX-9140, MUST have 13 band EQ (alternatives?)

-JL: Either 900/5HD OR 450/4v2 and 500/1v2 amps(opinions on the tradeoffs?)

-JL ZR650Csi front components

-JL C2-650x or TR650-Cxi coax rears (will i need these for fill, will the TR's do the job or should i step up to the C2's? assuming no need for coax)

-Single JL 12W7 in custom box

-Tons of matting

-Cables, wiring (0, 2, or 4 gauge?),etc

OK, so now on to the questions i have.

REARS/FILL: What is your opinion of "Fill" or adding rear speakers to the system, if tuned properly, will a G35c need the rear fill, or should the fronts take care of me. I'm looking for a purely SQ system that will be loud enough to show, but not compete. I want it to be loud, but without sacrificing quality. The rear deck is 6x9 and thats where i will be throwing the speakers in, theres no real room for large aftermarket speakers in the rear panels. (1.5" depth and .5" cover)

HEAD UNIT: What are your opinions of DD head units vs Carputers. I'm very technical and am posting on a custom built i7 that was easy for me to throw together. I know i can throw together the computer and wire it up, but as far as reliability, what are your opinions overall of the applications?

EQULIZATION: Talk to me about EQ range settings, i know the DDX814 has 13 EQ bands, is there such thing as an "infinite" EQ band setup on a computer where it is just a line that each point can be manipulated? This would seem to make the carputer worth the trouble to get the best sq possible.

AMPS: I would love to find an all in one amp to cover the spectrum of the setup, preferably 125-150/4 and 500-750/1. Recommendations for HIGH SQ amps, ive looked at ARC, JL, Sunshine (european, available in america?), DLS, etc, and none seem to stand out for me. OR will i get better reliability/SQ out of individual amps for the components and sub.

Post up any questions you may have for me, i know i am new to the site but hopefully i gave enough information for what i would like from the finished product. I thank each and every one of you for your responses and answers to my questions.

Im sure ill have more, so ill update this post as i think of them.

Budget is 3k (everything installed on my own) or 2k (installed for me, installation is 1k) still havent decided whether i wanna take apart my car myself or have someone else do it for me.

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[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

You should put so much camber on your wheels to where you're essentially riding on the rims.

 

[06g35meister 10+ year member]

You should put so much camber on your wheels to where you're essentially riding on the rims.

Already at -3.2, -3.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

I'd recommend steering away from JL for subs, amps and speakers. You're paying for the name more than anything. I'd recommend checking out CDT or Image Dynamics for speakers and subs, and look into MB Quart's premium amps.

MB Quart PAB 4100 $300

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5652/PAB-4100--MB-Quart-Premium-4-Ch-400-Watt-Amplifier.htm

MB Quart PAB 1200.1D $300

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5654/PAB-12001D--MB-Quart-1-Ch-1200-Watt-Amplifier.htm

CDT ES-620 $350

http://www.woofersetc.com/p1109/ES620--CDT-Audio-EuroSport-65"-2Way-Component-Speakers.htm

IDMax 12" subwoofer $450

http://www.woofersetc.com/p2031/IDMAX12D2--Image-Dynamics-12"-1800-Watt-Subwoofer.htm

 

[06g35meister 10+ year member]

I'd recommend steering away from JL for subs, amps and speakers. You're paying for the name more than anything. I'd recommend checking out CDT or Image Dynamics for speakers and subs, and look into MB Quart's premium amps.
MB Quart PAB 4100 $300

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5652/PAB-4100--MB-Quart-Premium-4-Ch-400-Watt-Amplifier.htm

MB Quart PAB 1200.1D $300

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5654/PAB-12001D--MB-Quart-1-Ch-1200-Watt-Amplifier.htm

CDT ES-620 $350

http://www.woofersetc.com/p1109/ES620--CDT-Audio-EuroSport-65"-2Way-Component-Speakers.htm

IDMax 12" subwoofer $450

http://www.woofersetc.com/p2031/IDMAX12D2--Image-Dynamics-12"-1800-Watt-Subwoofer.htm

Thanks! Ill look into this setup, seemingly significantly cheaper than the JL. Any answers to the above questions (anyone)?

 

[06g35meister 10+ year member]

This IDMax sub is popping up everywhere, looks like a GREAT SQL subwoofer. And i really like that the amps are near the same size as they will be mounted in the trunk with a window to the labels.

What are the opinions of Hifonics amps?

 

[06g35meister 10+ year member]

also looking at focal 165vr. these seem to be the pinnacle of audiophile's speakers. what do yall think?

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

What are the opinions of Hifonics amps?

meh

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

get this and have the comps installed, maybe the deck. forget rearfill

http://www.woofersetc.com/p7886/DDX814--Kenwood-Excelon-2DIN-Navigation-Ready-Multimedia-DVD-Receiver-with-Bluetooth.htm

http://www.woofersetc.com/p1142/System-240mkII--Dynaudio-7"-2Way-Component.htm

http://www.woofersetc.com/p4282/SRX-4--Audison-4-Ch-340-Watt-Amplifier.htm

http://www.woofersetc.com/p6224/IDQ12V3D2--Image-Dynamics-12"-IDQ-Version-3-Dual-2-Ohm-Subwoofer.htm

http://www.woofersetc.com/p4224/LRX-1400---Audison-1-Ch-900-Watt-Amplifier.htm

 

[blazeplacid 10+ year member]

if you have a sedan I wouldnt worry to much about rear fill

the rear speakers are at foot level for the passengers, basically just here for them to hear something when someone is back there. I would put a ~$100 coax set

if you have a coupe, I would still do a $100 coax

 

[blazeplacid 10+ year member]

also, JL gets not love on this site, its good stuff but this site is geared more towards budget type stuff

 

[06g35meister 10+ year member]

New list

MB Quart PAB 4100 $300 - Nice look and appropriate watts for setup

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5652/PAB-4100--MB-Quart-Premium-4-Ch-400-Watt-Amplifier.htm

MB Quart PAB 1200.1D $300 - Matches 4100 and looks good, quality seems there as well. Not sure 600 will be enough for the IDmax though (600 RMS @ 4ohms, sub rated at 1000, or can i run it at 1ohm and get the 1200RMS, turned down of course?)

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5654/PAB-12001D--MB-Quart-1-Ch-1200-Watt-Amplifier.htm

UP6i - DLS Ultimate 6.5" 2-Way Component System - Wattage seems reasonable and price is great, rated some of the best out there in MULTIPLE places (ex: http://www.bestcovery.com/dls-up6i-2-way-component-system)

http://www.woofersetc.com/p7162/UP6i--DLS-Ultimate-65"-2Way-Component-System.htm

IDMAX12-D2 - Image Dynamics 12" 1800 Watt Subwoofer $450 - Will this thing still pound when I turn it up??? I am siding toward an SQL sub to show off at shows and meets.

http://www.woofersetc.com/p2031/IDMAX12D2--Image-Dynamics-12"-1800-Watt-Subwoofer.htm

0/1 Wiring kit, DDX814, and JDM bezel have been ordered along with steering wheel control adapter, sound deadening (got 30 ft^2 for starters), and 0 to 4 gauge X 2 plate.

 

[06g35meister 10+ year member]

Thanks for the help guys, plan on ordering this friday, let me know if there is anything im forgetting! I will be installing myself everything and then getting it tuned lightly, break everything in, then get some numbers to post by new years hopefully.

 

[nauc 10+ year member]

im telling you man, Dynaudio, Audison and ID

MBQ aint what they use to be and they werent better then Dyn or Audison anyway.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

The MB Quart premium amps are great. I loved mine. Some of the cleanest looking amps I've ever used.