Hey Christians

And if my mother is possibly lying to me through actions I can see and mistake for love...how do you know your god loves you when you cant even determine these by evidence. You simply have to believe based on a book written by a man who isnt your god.
I am not one to live literally by the bible. Most of my faith has come through personal life experiences. You know me Justin, I am not one to go to church every sunday and push my beliefs on everyone that walks through the door, in fact I personally have not been to an organized "church service" in years. I have my own personal beliefs that my parents have told me...much like your mother has told you she loves you.

 
So today your jebus was nailed on a wood plank to die for you so you can fly to live with him on the clouds and be happy ever after.
It always amazes me how many of you still believe this. I mean, can you prove any of this?

Im still waiting on this. I can and will prove your jebus story is a falsity when you prove it exists at a truth.

 
Many people make the mistake of believing the Bible says, “You shall not kill,” and seek to apply this command to war. However, the Bible actually says, “You shall not murder” (Exodus 20:13). The Hebrew word literally means “the intentional, premeditated killing of another person with malice.” God often ordered the Israelites to go to war with other nations (1 Samuel 15:3; Joshua 4:13). God ordered the death penalty for numerous crimes (Exodus 21:12; 21:15; 22:19; Leviticus 20:11). So, God is not against killing in all circumstances, but rather only murder. War is never a good thing, but sometimes it is a necessary thing. In a world filled with sinful people (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Sometimes the only way to keep sinful people from doing great harm to the innocent is by going to war with them.
War is a terrible thing. War is always the result of sin (Romans 3:10-18). In the Old Testament, God ordered the Israelites to: “Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites” (Numbers 31:2). See also Deuteronomy 20:16-17, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you.” Exodus 17:16 proclaims, “He said, ‘For hands were lifted up to the throne of the LORD. The LORD will be at war against the Amalekites from generation to generation.’" Also, 1 Samuel 15:18 says, “Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.” So, obviously God is not against all war. Jesus is always in perfect agreement with the Father (John 10:30), so we cannot argue that war was only God’s will in the Old Testament. God does not change (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17).

Jesus’ second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ the conquering commander who judges and makes war, but “with justice” (v. 11). It’s going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies who He will conquer completely, and He consigns them to a “fiery lake of burning sulfur” (v. 20).

It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes a war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves? We must all remember to base our beliefs of the Bible, not on our emotions (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

Ecclesiastes 3:8 declares, “there is…a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace. In a world filled with sin, hatred, and evil (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Some wars are more “just” than others, but all wars are ultimately the result of sin. Christians should not desire war, but neither are Christians to oppose the government God has placed in authority over them (Romans 13:1-4; 1 Peter 2:17). The most important thing we can be doing in a time of war is to be praying for godly wisdom for our leaders, praying for the safety of our military, praying for quick resolution to the conflict, and praying for minimum casualties on both sides of the conflict (Philippians 4:6-7).

You look like a real moron when you post something that you didnt write. You simply copy/paste...

http://www.gotquestions.org/war-Bible.html

 
no i dont, they simply explain it better...does none of that make sense to you?
What makes sense is that you should not have came in and simply found someone elses work to try and claim it as your own by not siting them. Good try...but make your own claims to this discussion, dont ride others shirt tails.

 
Im still waiting on this. I can and will prove your jebus story is a falsity when you prove it exists at a truth.
Prove it wrong. I know you are going to come back with "I asked you first" or "I wont prove it wrong until you prove it happened"

I can agree that for the most part organized religion in this world is in fact laughable at best, and maybe I'm totally wrong and wasting my life, in your eyes. And thats just it, in your eyes, I have believed my entire life, and know nothing else...it is my life, and I love my life.

So your telling me if I renounce my beliefs that all of a sudden I will be enlightened and my life will improve exponentially.

I still do not see how me believing in God is in some way "wronging" you, or at least thats what Im getting from some of what you are saying

 
I thought real Christians don't pay attention to the Old Testament anymore.

Or are we back to pretending that the Bible, written by men 40 years after Jesus, re-interpreted by men 2000 years after Jesus, is factual?

And please show me how the Bible is true, and the Qur'an is not.

 
Prove it wrong. I know you are going to come back with "I asked you first" or "I wont prove it wrong until you prove it happened"
I can agree that for the most part organized religion in this world is in fact laughable at best, and maybe I'm totally wrong and wasting my life, in your eyes. And thats just it, in your eyes, I have believed my entire life, and know nothing else...it is my life, and I love my life.

So your telling me if I renounce my beliefs that all of a sudden I will be enlightened and my life will improve exponentially.

I still do not see how me believing in God is in some way "wronging" you, or at least thats what Im getting from some of what you are saying
I never said anything about your last paragraph. Perhaps you should re-read my first post and then my follow up quote you quoted...

 
So you're saying the Catholic Church was around before the Hebrew translation was written?
When did they translate hebrew scrolls into hebrew? There was no "bible" before the catholic church to my recollection. Am I wrong on this one? Did King James not write the first "bible" we use today?

 
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