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You dont care about the facts, your personal perspective is your measuring stick of whats right and wrong. Understood. You'll grow out of that some day.
Again, marijuana's addiction has been scientifically proven to be 100% mental, no physical addiction what so ever. So you can claim every single pot smoker you know is some zombie just looking for his next brain feeding frenzy, but the truth is quite different.

"I can already tell you that no one in the top 25 of my class (out of 700) don't smoke."

Im starting to see your point, your previous pot smoking sessions apparently have killed the brain cells that keep a person from using double-negatives while trying to appear intelligent.


I apologize, i got in a frenzy and didn't proofread. My apologies. Good thing i got a 35 in english on my ACT //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 
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Smoking a doobie first would have helped you to remain calm. But its also an automatic admission to Hell, so what's a guy to do.

 
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is there really people stupid enough to think like this?

i think you have low self esteem.

i just don't get how people get so much hatred for a ****ing weedhead... it's pretty pathetic, and how offended you people get when the word's mentioned... weed... pot... kush... dank... hydro... marijuana... chronic... indo... skunk... fire... dro... get the fvck over it kids.

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No whats pathetic is when two stupid ****ing high school students get high as **** and go into on coming traffic and hit head on with my grandma. My best friend since i was in 4th grade started smoking in 9th grade and now is a junkie low life piece of shit and does shrooms and shit now. Now you tell me that i have no reason to hate the stuff, and dont tell me i have no idea what i am talking about, i used to smoke and now i am 19 years old and busting my *** trying to graduate from high school because i slacked the last three years, i had a gpa of under 1.0 because i could think about was going and getting high, i would come to school high, i would smoke in the bathrooms between periods. i started losing friends and i was a **** up. I stopped smoking weed and im getting on track now and im only graduating 8 months late, i had to make up 16 credits in a year all because of weed. People are getting dumber and the weed is becoming more potent, kids dont even sell weed around here now they sell ****ing hash because kids dont even get high off chronic anymore, what happens when the hash dont get em high anymore? They move on to coke maybe? I live in Clairemont, San Diego aka "tweekersville" lots of druggies around here and all of their kids are growing up the same way and their parents all started with weed at one point. So dont sit here and tell me i dont know shit about weed, it runs peoples lives around here, mother ****ers cant pay there water bill but they can pick up on a sack, now why the **** is that?

 
Smoking a doobie first would have helped you to remain calm. But its also your ticket to Hell, so what's a guy to do.
You have to understand, it's not like i'm repulsed by people that smoke, i don't hate them, i condemn them to hell, i don't run away when i see them because i think they're contagious...I just think that cannibus is not appropriate for the public to buy.

 
No whats pathetic is when two stupid ****ing high school students get high as **** and go into on coming traffic and hit head on with my grandma. My best friend since i was in 4th grade started smoking in 9th grade and now is a junkie low life piece of shit and does shrooms and shit now. Now you tell me that i have no reason to hate the stuff, and dont tell me i have no idea what i am talking about, i used to smoke and now i am 19 years old and busting my *** trying to graduate from high school because i slacked the last three years, i had a gpa of under 1.0 because i could think about was going and getting high, i would come to school high, i would smoke in the bathrooms between periods. i started losing friends and i was a **** up. I stopped smoking weed and im getting on track now and im only graduating 8 months late, i had to make up 16 credits in a year all because of weed. People are getting dumber and the weed is becoming more potent, kids dont even sell weed around here now they sell ****ing hash because kids dont even get high off chronic anymore, what happens when the hash dont get em high anymore? They move on to coke maybe? I live in Clairemont, San Diego aka "tweekersville" lots of druggies around here and all of their kids are growing up the same way and their parents all started with weed at one point. So dont sit here and tell me i dont know shit about weed, it runs peoples lives around here, mother ****ers cant pay there water bill but they can pick up on a sack, now why the **** is that?
And you think the substance you and your friends abused while fucking up your and their lives is the ultimate problem? Really? Try taking a little responsibility for your own actions and decisions, then come back here and tell us about the evils of pot.

"all because of weed" - No, all because of your decisions. Who here, in this thread, has made the case that highschool kids should be out smoking pot and driving? Or skipping school? Alot of people like to blame their environment for their own shortcomings. Guess what people, some of you were just plain born stupid as fuck, it wasn't the pot in highschool that made you that way.

 
You have to understand, it's not like i'm repulsed by people that smoke, i don't hate them, i condemn them to hell, i don't run away when i see them because i think they're contagious...I just think that cannibus is not appropriate for the public to buy.
Its not appropriate for the public to abuse. Im sure you can concede there is a difference between use, and abuse. If we are mature enough, as human beings and a society, to make the choice on alcohol, aspirin, cough syrup, tobacco, etc and accept the consequences if we abuse these substances to a point it causes impaired judgement that leads to a crime, why are we not allowed to make the same decision on marijuana. Again it is a much less addictive substance than even cigarettes. Much less. Yet the notion of a 'gateway' drug from back in the 1960's still permiates the thought process of the conservatives in this country to this very day.

 
It shouldn't be legalized because all smokers are evil criminals... because they break the law... by smoking pot? Talk about a catch-22. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
If your best argument against legalization is that smokers are 'law breakers' for merely breaking the law that is being discussed here, that's a pretty piss-poor argument.

More catch-22 logic aimed at casting pot smokers in an evil light.

Federal law still prohibits it. State laws in some states do not. This is the same federal versus states' rights that caused the civil war. Here in California clinics are given business liscenses, incured all the regulations, fee's, taxes, etc... only to have the feds raid them 3 months later, take all their 'legally' purchased product, seize all their 'private' records, and then pile back into their black vans and drive away. And your response to this entire amazing political battle that places citizens in the trenches...? That fed law says its illegal so by god pot smokers are still hiding in the shadows smoking their illicit substance. I really expect more from you.

Let me ask you this, if Congress, tomorrow, made marijuana legal, would your attitude about it or the people who smoke it change? Be honest. Because your entire stance is based on its legal status. When pro-pot people make valid points about the moral, scientific and statistical issues of pot smoking, tha fall-back retort always seems to be 'law breaker!'

Some people are just too brainwashed on the evils of marijuana to participate in a realistic debate. People who use terms like 'potheads'... but have zero moral qualms about tipping back a few beers after work. People who, when met with logic to substantiate the other side of the argument, simply fall back on 'its against the law so you are a criminal'. Come on guys, think for yourselves, not what your 5th grade teacher told you.
You spend too much time typing out too long of posts man. I have no issue with controlled recreational MJ use. That means just like the occasional drink, the occasional toke or two. I do still think people who's hobby or lifestyle is smoking weed are druggie losers, just like alcoholics are. True medicinal need is cool too....the "oh I got a hangnail and incurable pain" isn't...

Marijuana is not physically addictive, only mentally. Alcohol IS physically addictive. You will not get withdrawls or anything of the sort 'getting off the pot'... but you certainly can with alcohol. So.. what were you saying again about smokers only living for the next high? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Yeah, Im sure 'every single person' you know who smokes just lives for their next high. :laff:
Do you know anybody that smokes weed as often as cigerettes, and if so are you ever around them when they go "dry" and have to go without weed for any period of time. Have you ever seen friends scraping bowls for resin or trying to find a secret stash they hid, or call every possible hookup in the world for some?

The mind is a funny thing, if the head is going through withdrawel who says it can't affect the body? I've seen people who don't "live for the next high" per say, but it is INCREDIBLY important to them, definitely one of the top items on the pyramid of needs...

 
Its not appropriate for the public to abuse. Im sure you can concede there is a difference between use, and abuse. If we are mature enough, as human beings and a society, to make the choice on alcohol, aspirin, cough syrup, tobacco, etc and accept the consequences if we abuse these substances to a point it causes impaired judgement that leads to a crime, why are we not allowed to make the same decision on mamrijuana. Again it is a much less addictive substance than even cigarettes. Much less. Yet the notion of a 'gateway' drug from back in the 1960's still permiates the thought process of the conservatives in this country to this very day.
I would agree with that, but the fact of the matter is that this would be easily available for younger kids, people that definately would not have the ability to handle it as a mature person. Hell, there's tons of people that can't do it that are of age.

 
I'm not stupid as ****, i have a good head on my shoulders the pathetic thing is that i can say when i did it, i was a "stupid high school kid". you have no excuse your a grown *** man and still have nothing better to do with your life but to smoke weed. Thats the difference between me and you, sorry to break it to you man, but you still dont have friends in the end //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif its just you and your trusty bong, i guess.

 
You spend too much time typing out too long of posts man. I have no issue with controlled recreational MJ use. That means just like the occasional drink, the occasional toke or two. I do still think people who's hobby or lifestyle is smoking weed are druggie losers, just like alcoholics are. True medicinal need is cool too....the "oh I got a hangnail and incurable pain" isn't...



Do you know anybody that smokes weed as often as cigerettes, and if so are you ever around them when they go "dry" and have to go without weed for any period of time. Have you ever seen friends scraping bowls for resin or trying to find a secret stash they hid, or call every possible hookup in the world for some?

The mind is a funny thing, if the head is going through withdrawel who says it can't affect the body? I've seen people who don't "live for the next high" per say, but it is INCREDIBLY important to them, definitely one of the top items on the pyramid of needs...
If you have no issue with controlled use, why are you here with your 'you are still breaking the law!' attitude? Your no-compromise attitud is what made me quote you and debate you to begin with. Now you want to say you have no issue with controlled recreational use? You lousy troll. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif
You can have your cute little anecdotes about scraping bowls or smoking as often as cigs, but the scientifically proven fact is cigs and alcohol are both not only mentally addictive, they are also physically addictive. Marijuana is not, in any way, physically addictive. No matter what your quasi-mental/physical-psychosomatic withdrawl theory says. So paint a picture of 'potheads' who only live for their next high all you want. The scraping their bowls? Calling every hook up they know? If it was legal, they'd simply drive to the store and buy it, just like beer. And the point is if the roles were reversed, all the symptoms you say exist for a 'strung out' pot head, would be much much worse for someone wanting alcohol or cigarettes. Yet we, as a society, have no moral qualms about alcohol or cigarettes being legal. So clearly an argument based on marijuana being addictive (potheads only live for their next high) is total BS created by the media and powers that be, and perpetuated by the media, our govt's school system, and brain washed people like you. Think for yourself.

I would agree with that, but the fact of the matter is that this would be easily available for younger kids, people that definately would not have the ability to handle it as a mature person. Hell, there's tons of people that can't do it that are of age.
It obviously already is available to young kids. If anything, legalizing it would bring its use and abuse more out in the open and make it easier to control the abusing.
 
I'm not stupid as ****, i have a good head on my shoulders the pathetic thing is that i can say when i did it, i was a "stupid high school kid". you have no excuse your a grown *** man and still have nothing better to do with your life but to smoke weed. Thats the difference between me and you, sorry to break it to you man, but you still dont have friends in the end //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif its just you and your trusty bong, i guess.
Ah yes, the holier-than-thou attitude. I expected it much sooner, actually. It must be great knowing how smart and experienced you are, that you dipped your foot in the pond long enough to become an expert, but short enough to still come out smelling like roses and casting your dispersions on anyone who didnt make your same choices.
I have no friends, just a bong, you know me so well. Just imagine, if I didn't smoke the pot that you assume I do, Id assuredly have lots of friends. Right?

Yes, you were born stupid as fuck. Clearly. The pot you smoked in HS is just your excuse you tell yourself to take away the sting of reality.

 
You have to understand, it's not like i'm repulsed by people that smoke, i don't hate them, i condemn them to hell
you don't hate us but you condemn them to hell? do you have any idea wtf your talking about?

and to the kid who's grandma got hit by someone who was a pot smoker, im sorry to hear that, but it's not the weed, it's the idiot who decided to get high, couldn't maintain comporsure under the influence and made a bad decision by driving. this can go for alcohol aswell, yet it's legal... hmm try harder. it's not the pot, it's the users who abuse it. just as much as alcohol or any other substance.

and btw, ryan, how is shrooms a hard drug or a drug that ruins someones life? this is again an organically grown, non addictive in any form substance that doesn't affect your life or anyone around you.

 
If you have no issue with controlled use, why are you here with your 'you are still breaking the law!' attitude? Your no-compromise attitud is what made me quote you and debate you to begin with. Now you want to say you have no issue with controlled recreational use? You lousy troll. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif
You can have your cute little anecdotes about scraping bowls or smoking as often as cigs, but the scientifically proven fact is cigs and alcohol are both not only mentally addictive, they are also physically addictive. Marijuana is not, in any way, physically addictive. No matter what your quasi-mental/physical-psychosomatic withdrawl theory says. So paint a picture of 'potheads' who only live for their next high all you want. The scraping their bowls? Calling every hook up they know? If it was legal, they'd simply drive to the store and buy it, just like beer. And the point is if the roles were reversed, all the symptoms you say exist for a 'strung out' pot head, would be much much worse for someone wanting alcohol or cigarettes. Yet we, as a society, have no moral qualms about alcohol or cigarettes being legal. So clearly an argument based on marijuana being addictive (potheads only live for their next high) is total BS created by the media and powers that be, and perpetuated by the media, our govt's school system, and brain washed people like you. Think for yourself.
Sometimes a troll, indeed. Point was and still is that smoking pot, medicinal or not is illegal at the federal level even if Obama doesn't enforce it. Not saying I agree with federal trumping state law, but it is what it is, just the truth of the current situation.

You didn't answer my question either, do you have personal experience or know people like I mentioned in my last post? I do, but I guess real life personal experience is obviously made up because you have read some studies. My perception was not created by the media, it was created by what I've seen in real life with my own eyes. If you haven't personally seen people like this then you just don't know...no troll. Maybe you need to think for yourself...

 
you don't hate us but you condemn them to hell? do you have any idea wtf your talking about?
and to the kid who's grandma got hit by someone who was a pot smoker, im sorry to hear that, but it's not the weed, it's the idiot who decided to get high, couldn't maintain comporsure under the influence and made a bad decision by driving. this can go for alcohol aswell, yet it's legal... hmm try harder. it's not the pot, it's the users who abuse it. just as much as alcohol or any other substance.
On the former, I assumed it was a typo and he meant to say he 'doesnt' condemn those people to hell.

On the latter, you are trying to reason with a pine stump. Ive recently come to the same conclusion myself. Nice try though, you make sense... like it matters.

 
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