HDC3......Copys???

[Aroc 10+ year member]

cca is a joke btw

Now your just telling me somthing I allready knew! LOL //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[DDeitz 10+ year member]

cca is a joke?...since when...must new news its too bad though since it is the biggest Canadian site.

 

[Blazin_Jason 10+ year member]

By no means is that new news, it's been a joke for a long time now.

 

[SeanDub 10+ year member]

There are several subwoofers now on the market that "LooK" like the AQHDC series. The basic motor design is a very well known motor in China and is made by several different companies and is used by several subwoofer companies. It's kind of like the Chev 350 engine in that they all look the same on the outside but there are many different variations of the same basic motor.
The subwoofer motor can be, and in our case , built to whatever specs the customer needs to suit their overall woofer design. This includes the gap, pole piece, top and bottom plate, magnet thickness,ID and OD. The combinations are almost limitless. The same goes for spiders, coils, cones, surrounds and every other part that makes up the final design.

Some or all of the parts can be "off the shelf" and some can be custom "tooled" if needed. There are hundreds of spider designs available for the sub designer to pick from and many different coil configurationns as well as the quality and type of wire used to wind the coil not to mention the quality of the glues used. The overall suspension design can be vastly different and still look very much like other designs at first glance.

The methods and quality of assembly can and do vary greatly yet the finished products "look" the same to the uneducated buyer. Price does not always go hand and hand with quality; just because they "look" the same doesn't mean you're getting the same product. I know of one product that "looks" just like ours but comes apart the first time it gets its rated power put to it....well maybe the second time.

The majority of the parts including the motors on most subwoofers on the market today come from off-shore. Most of the sub assembly is done off-shore. The sad fact of the matter is the subwoofer business has become for the most part a Chinese business.

I have found that in some respects China is just like America; there is good stuff and bad stuff...sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

Care to name names?

 

[Haunz 10+ year member]

By no means is that new news, it's been a joke for a long time now.

The owner's are whoring up the site.... but the community aint no joke....

As far as the TF1 subs... the guy selling them has pointed out that they are the same motor/basket/cone with a stiffer suspension and larger voice coil then the HD3c's, and apparently they use stronger glue....

the principal difference in price is because of shipping and tariffs to bring them into Canada....

the guy has said these are not a production woofer and he is not looking to sell many.... they were only made with a few Canadian SPL compeditors in mind... I'm sure anyone else who wants their own 'brand name' can contact AQ's build house and get them made so long as they will commit to buying 20 or 30 drivers...

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

The owner's are whoring up the site.... but the community aint no joke....



As far as the TF1 subs... the guy selling them has pointed out that they are the same motor/basket/cone with a stiffer suspension and larger voice coil then the HD3c's (ect) and apparently they use stronger glue....

the principal difference in price is because of shipping and tariffs to bring them into Canada....

the guy has said these are not a production woofer and he is not looking to sell many.... they were only made with few Canadian SPL compeditors in mind...

stiffer suspension? i would like to know the details. the hdc's can be upgraded to an even stiffer suspension setup as well.

and how much larger of a voice coil are we talking about?

 

[Haunz 10+ year member]

stiffer suspension? i would like to know the details. the hdc's can be upgraded to an even stiffer suspension setup as well.
and how much larger of a voice coil are we talking about?

I really don't know.... IIRC more spiders and they are stiffer with a longer wind height on the former....

I'm sure AQ can custom order you the exact same thing.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/bigwave.gif.16324171cad2db62cf4f16568b038478.gif

 

[bad @SS chevy 10+ year member]

which copy is teh cheapest?

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

which copy is teh cheapest?

AQ is the cheapest i would bet. they dont hide the fact its chinese, so the price isnt going to be gouged out like with the bigger more mainstream companies.

haunz: yea, thats what i figured. good shit.

 

[SlainNothing 10+ year member]

just search. DD and AQ are partners you can say. DD remains all usa made. DD letsAQ go to china (out sourcing/lower cost) so now the DD design is floating in china accessible to anyone. not that hard to understand

 

[DJL 10+ year member]

just search. DD and AQ are partners you can say. DD remains all usa made. DD letsAQ go to china (out sourcing/lower cost) so now the DD design is floating in china accessible to anyone. not that hard to understand

I hate to tell you this but the AQ is not a DD design.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

*waits for the newbies to doubt DJ's own word on his woofer*

 

[hazardous0388 10+ year member]

*waits for the newbies to doubt DJ's own word on his woofer*

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif i just threw the warrentee paper away from my old HD12 today.. =( old times...

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

meh

 

[dleccord 5,000+ posts]

are those the standard size dust caps on the aq 10s?

bump