Hardware store wire ok for sub?

[bballer123 10+ year member]

All I will say is that for a sub, it is fine. It will not matter that much, even though you already bought the wire.

I know with home audo, coincidentally, solid wire sounded the best by far for speakers in my bedroom. 12awg colid copper electrical wire sounded the fullest. It was a b*tch to work with, but it sounded good. It sounded tons better than the Monster Cable I used previously.

Like I said though, that was home audio with mid to upper freqs.

-Matt

 

[kross 10+ year member]

holy crap, OFC effects "sonic quality" of speaker cable???

PVC insulation is the worst??

Twisted pair speaker cable matters?

Shielding matters??

You can HEAR all this stuff???

Wow, I bet salespeople LOOOOOOVE it when you walk in the door.

Actually I've never noticed a difference between OFC and regular copper. But silver, yes.

And yes, those things do affect sonic quality. Do you agree that an audio signal is an AC signal? Do you agree that all cables have a measurable inductance (L), capacitance ©, and resistance ®? And that these properties change with frequency? Do you also agree that changing any of those values will have an effect on the AC signal being passed through said cable? Insulator does affect the capacitance of a cable, PVC is especially bad because it doesn't have an equal dialetric coeffecient across the audio spectrum, it's higher at lower frequencies, causing it to attenuate higher frequencies, giving the cable a warmer sound. It also has a rather high dielectric absorbtion rate, which tends to "smear" the sound. Teflon has a very flat dialetric coeffecient across the audio spectrum, as well as polyethylene. Teflon also has the lowest DA rate. Cable geometry affects inductance. Usually you trade capacitance for inductance with changes in geometry. Much research has been done, there are countless technical documents published.

And I don't buy speaker cables, I usually make my own, for much cheaper than can be bought.

But for subwoofers, as long as you use a large enough gauge, you can't hear any differences at those frequencies. Use whatever is cheapest.

 

[n2audio 5,000+ posts]

Actually I've never noticed a difference between OFC and regular copper. But silver, yes.
And yes, those things do affect sonic quality. Do you agree that an audio signal is an AC signal? Do you agree that all cables have a measurable inductance (L), capacitance ©, and resistance ®? And that these properties change with frequency? Do you also agree that changing any of those values will have an effect on the AC signal being passed through said cable? Insulator does affect the capacitance of a cable, PVC is especially bad because it doesn't have an equal dialetric coeffecient across the audio spectrum, it's higher at lower frequencies, causing it to attenuate higher frequencies, giving the cable a warmer sound. It also has a rather high dielectric absorbtion rate, which tends to "smear" the sound. Teflon has a very flat dialetric coeffecient across the audio spectrum, as well as polyethylene. Teflon also has the lowest DA rate. Cable geometry affects inductance. Usually you trade capacitance for inductance with changes in geometry. Much research has been done, there are countless technical documents published.

And I don't buy speaker cables, I usually make my own, for much cheaper than can be bought.

But for subwoofers, as long as you use a large enough gauge, you can't hear any differences at those frequencies. Use whatever is cheapest.

There is a HUGE difference between measurable and AUDIBLE.

You need to get OUT of the electric theory books and INTO the double blind listening room.

You're DREAMING if you think you can hear that.

Plain and SIMPLE.

 

[Jacobman 10+ year member]

I just bought 6' of 12awg wire from home depot today, next time i order from Knu i will get some of there wire.

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

Are you for serious?

Nah he isnt

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

Nah he isnt

im dead serious!!!

just happened to me last week. never again will i use wire that isnt treated

 

[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

im dead serious!!!
just happened to me last week. never again will i use wire that isnt treated

Like the time that you told me that purple haze was poisonous.

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

Like the time that you told me that purple haze was poisonous.

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