Got CV to send me more detailed specs for the stroker 154....

[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

For some reason, vega's web site still only has preliminary specs on their webpage, which are untechnical, to say the least.

after much fussing and fighting, a few unsuccessful request for e-mail information, and about an hour total on the phone, i got the info i was after:

What do you guys think?

Honestly, it looks uncomfortably not unlike an orion H2 on paper...........

It's probably a good driver, but none of those numbers look too exciting for the $ compared to an mtx 9500 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

And no xmech....... I don't know why a SPL driver wouldn't list xmech....

And the CV techs have no idea what i mean when i ask if they know what the xmech is.....

Kinda discouraging. Just thought i'd share the info.

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[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Why would you care about xmech? Especially if it's truly an SPL driver.

nG

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

And no xmech....... I don't know why a SPL driver wouldn't list xmech....

You mean Xmax?

Its listed as 29mm.

 

[thesandman 10+ year member]

what type of enclosure are you building?

 

[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

i'm not...... i realize xmech isn't important for a vented enclosure

i just don't like trying to compare multiple drivers with limited specs.

i'm honestly still not sold on the stroker's dominance over the 9500.

nobody's got these **** things. And they're pretty expensvie to buy on a whim.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I was just saying, for SPL... where you peak/burp near tuning... xmax/xmech is not important... at all.

nG

 

[thesandman 10+ year member]

read this thread about the 9500,or snoopdan's responce about that sub, aluminum cones FTL? http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157777&highlight=mtx

 

[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

ya, i remember when he cracked one.

the new stroker is just nothing like the old one.

the stroker pro is basically a remake of the classic stroker. this one is exactly like an orion h2.

dual spiders..... dual gap voice coil..... even the exact same xmax.....

and the scariest part.... the stroker is LESS efficient.

it just makes me nervous. i DO want to try one, but i don't wanna get burned and end up trying to sell a sub that nobody buys NEW, let alone USED

 

[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

plus, this stroker doesn't even have the cone-spider.

it has two on the frame, but a stroker isn't a stroker imo without a cone-spider.

 

[thesandman 10+ year member]

people dont buy them new because they dont know about this company as well, they sorta fell off the map lol it doesnt mean they dont put out a good product, pm snoopdan he told me of all the competitors using the stoker none of them had problems with them.

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

lower sensitivity = more control

 

[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

ya, it just all adds up to making me think the stroker pro is cerwin's flagship, and the regular stroker is just an average sub with the word stroker slapped on it. Whereas, i could have the 9500, which is MTX's end all be-all, that no doubt they put a lot of effort into.

not ripping on cv, i know their home speakers sound ridiculously good. I'm just weary of throwing down for a sub not too many people have experience with, and honestly, has absolutely nothing to do with the original stroker.

 

[CJL 10+ year member]

I was just saying, for SPL... where you peak/burp near tuning... xmax/xmech is not important... at all.
nG

would xmax be a factor for daily driving?

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

would xmax be a factor for daily driving?

A factor, yes.

nG

 

[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

So i'm getting a pretty big inclination that you guys think i should give the strokers a shot?

Think they'd put up with a bit smaller box than recommended? I have a 5 cube, 33hz box i built for my type-x's i never used, and don't feel the motivation to build a new box right now.

They're recommended in a ~3 cube box @ 35hz.

Based on those specs, think it'll be alright till summer?