Girl kills herself over LHC experiment

Once again. Close minded is stating that my words are absolute and that I don't accept I may be wrong. This I have never done. You are an idiot for thinking my strong belief structure is clsoe minded.
Dude you just got pwnt by Unholysavage..

Just stop

 
Dude you just got pwnt by Unholysavage..
Just stop
Why? Because you agree with him that equals owned? You are ignorant then too.

I entertain the thought they may be right.

They refuse to even acknowledge my belief in GOD as a possibility. How am I close minded? You guys really are idiots and apparently idiots are pack animals.

 
Without science we wouldn't be arguing over the internets would we?
Without science we would still be beating each other to death with clubs and stones. More likely we'd be extinct and wouldn't be having this discussion.

Once again. Close minded is stating that my words are absolute and that I don't accept I may be wrong. This I have never done. You are an idiot for thinking my strong belief structure is clsoe minded.
And you're an idiot for somehow thinking that a religious answer is the only correct answer. You claim that you're not absolute, yet you call others blasphemous, or idiots for not agreeing with you baseless opinions. Your belief structure is so rigid that it stops you from accepting that the potential knowledge gained through science may just be much more beneficial than harmful, and it retards your ability to essentially think for yourself.

And FYI, I was once very religious, raised in a very active RC family. Hell, I even took religious studies courses in university to find reasons why modern religions were seemingly failing mankind. I'm in all accounts now an agnostic, teetering a step or two above atheism. Before you go and embarass yourself again by saying that I absolutely don't believe in god, please go look up the definition of "agnostic". I hope that I don't have to repeat myself again on that subject.

And I'm also a scientist (petroleum geologist, B.Sc and M.Sc degrees), reasonably well educated and not afraid to think for myself.

There is a reason why I chose "Unholysavage" as my handle. You call it blasphemous, I consider it evolution, in a sense.

 
No need for 2 threads on the same subject. Not only that but you didnt take that thread seriously from the get go, so neither will I. You owned yourself there sport.
See the ******* thread, i have nothing left to prove. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
The problem with science as a belief is its rigid adherence to logic and observation, paired with its ability to be flexible: in science, we are always willing to change our opinions if a new opinion can be demonstrated as correct. A scientist who tells you God is impossible is not a very good scientist. God as the current concept is significantly less probable and philosophically illogical, but still a possibility that you cannot deny. That is the beauty of science.

Religion, on the other hand, does not require or use logic to hold its value; and, by default, it denies the existence of anything other than itself. It is rigid and never-changing: no matter what anyone ever tells you, that religion will still hold true. All three of the major monotheistic texts describe their religion as the one true religion. We must be careful about balancing the belief in God and the belief in religion: although religion is firmly rooted in the belief of God, the inverse is not necessarily true. For example, a theory amongst many scientists is that by God we mean the universe and its laws, rather than the imaginary man in the sky we have developed in the common religions. It really is the human element of God and religion that is the least valuable, since we are the ones who have corrupted such a concept to match our own social and political desires.

 
Without science we would still be beating each other to death with clubs and stones. More likely we'd be extinct and wouldn't be having this discussion.


And you're an idiot for somehow thinking that a religious answer is the only correct answer. You claim that you're not absolute, yet you call others blasphemous, or idiots for not agreeing with you baseless opinions. Your belief structure is so rigid that it stops you from accepting that the potential knowledge gained through science may just be much more beneficial than harmful, and it retards your ability to essentially think for yourself.

And FYI, I was once very religious, raised in a very active RC family. Hell, I even took religious studies courses in university to find reasons why modern religions were seemingly failing mankind. I'm in all accounts now an agnostic, teetering a step or two above atheism. Before you go and embarass yourself again by saying that I absolutely don't believe in god, please go look up the definition of "agnostic". I hope that I don't have to repeat myself again on that subject.

And I'm also a scientist (petroleum geologist, B.Sc and M.Sc degrees), reasonably well educated and not afraid to think for myself.

There is a reason why I chose "Unholysavage" as my handle. You call it blasphemous, I consider it evolution, in a sense.
ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE IN THE CHEAP SEATS. I never said it was the only answer and have accepted I may be wrong(something you can't grasp or do). It is merely the answer I BELIEVE is correct. We all have to have our beliefs. The fact that you think I am not entitled to my BELIEF makes you the truly close minded individual.
 
ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE IN THE CHEAP SEATS. I never said it was the only answer and have accepted I may be wrong(something you can't grasp or do). It is merely the answer I BELIEVE is correct. We all have to have our beliefs. The fact that you think I am not entitled to my BELIEF makes you the truly close minded individual.
Wow!

Do you just have selective memory, or do you only read what you want to see? I never once said that you're not entitled to your beliefs. I strongly disagree with them, even told you why, but don't pretend to twist my words into meaning that you can't have your beliefs. Keep your beliefs, by all means, but keep them to yourself.

As for not being able to accept that I may be wrong, I probably posted that 3-4 times in this thread. I guess you must have skipped over the numerous times I mentioned that I could be wrong, or we may both be wrong. I guess you never looked up the definition of "agnostic", either. Funny, I'm not 100% against you but you can't see it. When all else fails, twist people's words and hope they don't notice.

As for never saying that your beliefs were the only answer, let's refresh our memories. It all started here:

100% agree. This can't be allowed to proceed. It is evident that the threat of cataclysmic incident is real. If it wasn't a real threat we wouldn't have lost a life to it already. I would also sue the agencies that let it get this far already. They are solely responsible for this person taking their life.
Seems like a pretty stiff position to start off on. Not much to interpret here - you are 100% against the experiment. Black and white. You're entitled to your opinion, no harm, no foul (yet). All cool until you decide to bring in religion.

As I stated we can't handle this type of knowledge and power responsibly. This is why GOD didn't gift us with it. Go pick up the good book. YOU NEED IT.
Cole's notes: science is irresponsible, the only knowledge/answers worth knowing are found in the bible. Ignorance is not a good thing, Speed.

It still doesn't make them "all knowing"
there is only one entity with that much power and for good reason. We don't need to be trying to fill his shoes.
Scientists haven't a clue. and only god knows best. Followed closely by:

....Now if you say because you can't understand the truth I speak and you couldn't continue to go on being an idiot, then I suppose I would be to blame.
You absolutely believe every word you wrote. The "truth" you speak of is spoken in ABSOLUTE terms. I've gone to enough religious lectures to know that there's not much to interpret here. This is a black and white statement. Your "truth" is right, everyone else who doesn't follow you, or god, is wrong. I don't care if you casually admit later that you could be wrong, it's all right here.

You carelessly throw out terms like "truth" and "fact" where they should never be used. Do you truly know what they mean?

What you should be saying is "I believe" or "my opinion is". Remember that.

 
How is it not relevant. Im giving an example of something that should have stopped right at the first death or never been started in the first place. And it wasnt stopped and now we are where we are. 4000+ deaths
Spell relevant correctly next time.
you just sound like a ***** hippy, if someone is stupid enough to kill themselves because they heard that there is a slim possibility of an experiment to destroy us, then they deserve to die, its natural selection. the dumb ones die while we prevail and reap the benefits(hopefully) of the LHC

 
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