Free Air Subwoofers? Please explain.

My Audi a4 has a stock 8" Bose ib. On some songs it vibrates my seat. I mean it's not gonna make your ears pop or anything, but it does sound pretty nice for stock. So I'm guessing if you get a real high quality ib sub, make a nice tight seal on the rear deck, you could get decently loud for sure.

 
Nick (owner of Obsidian Audio) used an OA 12 in an IB install.Flat response from 20hz on up and takes its rated power in IB (600rms). For around 150bucks shipped, its worth a shot.So my vote goes for OA. (Yes I'm a nuthugger //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif )

 
Anymore word on the @sundownz IB sub in the youtube video? That thing look amazing. I would be really interested in running that in an IB setup so that I could save my trunk space with my kids stuff. How much would it be to order one since it won't be a production model.
 
IDMAX10-D2 - Image Dynamics 10" Competition Subwoofer

Says 1800 peak power, whatever the rms is, that's the one I'm looking for. And it has to be a 10".

 
I've been running TB for a while - Trunk Baffle. IB is a misnomer since a vehicle is NEVER an Infinite Baffle. But we call it IB.

i digress

IB/TB can sound very good. You can eliminate all of the box issues that affect frequency response and you resolve most phase interference issues that a box in the trunk will cause. you can be plenty loud (enough to induce hearing damage) and you can play as low as you want (i have 12Hz measurements).

the challenge and usually fail is in the install. you need to design a trunk that is airtight relative to the cabin. that means heavy modifications to that entire path. next you need to substantially reinforce the mounting surface. the time required is around 30+hrs. modifications to teh vehicle are permanent.

you can see my TB install in my build log. i have 1-1/2" MDF mounting/reinforcing with 4-5 layers of fiberglass. the rear deck is too flimsy and requires it be completely cut out and rebuilt using a few layers of wood. anything not completely rigid can flex and destroy any chance at sounding the way you want.

flex is bad. IB/TB is hard to implement in a car.

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Car Audio Subwoofer Enclosures Second Order, Infinite Baffle, Free Air

 
looking at this post confirms. You are a dumbass
Fuc*boy, PLEASE! This post also confirms that you are weak and like to hide behind computers. The owners thought it sounded great, but I wasn't impressed. Snoopdan and Maylar basically said the same thing. Why don't you internet gangster them? You said in another lame post that I don't know who I'm dealing with. If you ever come to Texas, hit me up so I can know what I'm dealing with. I don't believe in hiding behind computers.

 
Quoted for an incredible amount of fail.
Have you even heard Solo Classics? There was a time IB was really popular and those setups were everywhere. You were in probably in the 4th grade? I'll end my posting in this thread because you swear you know more than me.

 
Fuc*boy, PLEASE! This post also confirms that you are weak and like to hide behind computers. The owners thought it sounded great, but I wasn't impressed. Snoopdan and Maylar basically said the same thing. Why don't you internet gangster them? You said in another lame post that I don't know who I'm dealing with. If you ever come to Texas, hit me up so I can know what I'm dealing with. I don't believe in hiding behind computers.
Hey e-thug save it for the dome.

 
ib can sound nice and efficient, as mentioned. aside from the needed wave separation issue, look at it more this way: the driver needs a certain amount of compliance to perform well. to assist in this, ib or fee-air subs tend to have a low moving mass, and also a real stiff suspension. typically, the enclosure will help move the cone back to center so it can be pushed by the next part of the wave, so it can "comply" with the signal. another aide in this, is the use of a class a amp. all other classes do not really pass much power through the sub at idle/neutral. a/b amps pass a small amount, but not much. the large amount of power, again, helps to hold the "neutral" point in travel. these are not too common ways of doing things, even less lately, so i would not venture to say that most setups will sound good at all.

on another note, there is a great deal of success that can be had using the opening in the deck as a passage for the port to fire from a 4th order.

 
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