Forza wins over gt5 mostly because of the trigger controls for the pedals. It is much easier to modulate and feed in inputs, than it is on the psx controllers. I don't like to compare the games one on one, to me one is a driving simulator (Forza, more realistic in its operations) and one is a racing simulator(GT series, hence more arcade like in its operations). They both allow you to accomplish the same thing in the end, but the experiences getting there greatly differ.) I used to be the biggest GT series fan boy growing up, but once they kept pushing GT5s release date back and back, it gave me the opportunity to play Forza 2 and I have never looked back at GT since then, with the exception of a couple drunken multiplayer races on my buddy's ps3.