For the last time, PLEASE: clipping does NOT blow speakers/subwoofers

[sqhertz 5,000+ posts]

Is this like guns dont kill people, but people kill people? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

yes. but more like , clipping doesnt kill speakers , people do.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

But how come my boi had these mad fresh pyle speakers running of his tape deck and the was blasting that shit and the voice coil melted?

True story btw. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

yes. but more like, clipping doesnt kill speakers , heat does... and idiots...and bass boost and on and on...

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[sqhertz 5,000+ posts]

Fixed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

true story.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

I understand what you are saying PV. I see that when people refer to clipping they are basically saying someone is overdriving speakers. For the most part people buy amplifiers that make the RMS power that the speaker they want to drive is rated for. So when they send the amp into clipping they are producing more power. The rms rating on a good amp is going to be at a certain distortion level. The amps generally will make more power but will increase their distortion accordingly. I fully understand that a clipped signal in and of itself doesn't kill a speaker. It's just that the most likely case is that someone is overpowering a driver past it's thermal limit when they clip the shit out of the amplified signal.

BTW, there are many other ways to kill a speaker besides pushing past physical limits and thermal ratings.

Examples:

Fire

Sledgehammer

Bad shipping

water

etc...

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[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

From an engineering stand point he is 100% correct. It just that theory and real life examples will often differ. Clipping will cause heat. In effect its not the clipping, its the heat. Since heat is a natural by-product of clipping it stands to reason that his summation is not completely accurate for real world use.

my .02 anyways.

 

[mikeyq926 10+ year member]

when we were covering sound in my physics class, my teacher had taught me so much about all i would want to know about audio systems. my teacher is a bass junkie lol. we even had a project where we made our own speakers out of construction paper and tiolet paper rolls and badass magnets. lol

and yes i would have to agree that a clipped signal does NOT blow speakers

 

[sonic purity 10+ year member]

Clipping is the reason that you can blow a sub rated at 600 watts rms with a 300 watt amp.

But nothing can blow a Funky Pup. Except maybe a Hydrogen Bomb

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

But what effect does an amp under-go while clipping a signal?

Does it damage the amp? fvck the speaker //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

From an engineering stand point he is 100% correct. It just that theory and real life examples will often differ. Clipping will cause heat. In effect its not the clipping, its the heat. Since heat is a natural by-product of clipping it stands to reason that his summation is not completely accurate for real world use.
my .02 anyways.

I think it boils down to being natural to say. Is it technically correct, no. It's just that in most real world applications they go hand in hand. If you are dealing with a 12 watt RMS amp though and 60 watt rate driver, this more than likely wouldn't play out. Basically PV is playing on semantics here and knows what everyone is getting at when they say that. He just wants to be a brain and act like only he knows what is really killing it.
If we were to tell a noob he was overdriving his speakers, he would just say "no, I have a 100watt rms amp on my 100 watt rms components.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

But what effect does an amp under-go while clipping a signal?Does it damage the amp? fvck the speaker //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

More heat and running components out of spec possibly. Once again, it won't be the signal itself killing it. It's just overdriving parts past their rating or creating more heat.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

More heat and running components out of spec possibly. Once again, it won't be the signal itself killing it. It's just overdriving parts past their rating or creating more heat.

/nod.

That's what I thought. But I wanted to make sure.

Basically runs it on 'overdrive' and kinda wears out the internals, right?

Sounds logical.

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[hoss 5,000+ posts]

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accept it people, clipping destroys speakers.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

/nod.That's what I thought. But I wanted to make sure.

Basically runs it on 'overdrive' and kinda wears out the internals, right?

Sounds logical.

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Most good amps use components with wiggle room.
However your thinking is correct. If a component is only made to run up to a certain amperage and you overdriving the amp causes it to go past this rating, it will give up the ghost soon.

It's like expecting a 200HP motor with stock internals to accept enough boost to get 500 or more out of it. Chances are those stock parts aren't rated for this much power and eventually something in the chain will give up.

 

[bonesninja 5,000+ posts]

i posted real proof that clipping destroys subs