First hand account of 9/11 Long read but interesting

[Mr. Opportunist 10+ year member]

Ok, what does people starving have to do with remembering one of the top 5 most significant events in American history. That single disaster changed this country forever.
Also, it just happens to be just past the anniversary, so I see no harm in paying respect and reminiscing of things that happened.

That single event made Americans realize how ****ed up our country really is. The government is useless and only protects their own interests.

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

Anybody else notice this?

ur point?

 

[Motley 10+ year member]

Whats really sad is, right after it happened.. all these other countries felt sorry for us. "We are all Americans today".

And now Bush fuked that up by invading Iraq. Nobody feels sorry for us anymore

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

That single event made Americans realize how ****ed up our country really is. The government is useless and only protects their own interests.

really? are you serious? so the fact that you get to wake up in the morning, post ridiculous things about our government and not fear getting killed for it that means our government is useless? you can wake up, walk out of your house and not worry about car bombs going off or just simply surviving the day. the fact you have a relatively safe environment to live in day in day out means our government does nothing?

move to iraq or another country where democracy doesnt exist and see how much you enjoy their government.

one attack on american soil since pearl harbor and they are useless? you know how many countries hate us and would love to attack us? i think they are doing a **** good job at protecting us.

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

move to iraq or another country where democracy doesnt exist and see how much you enjoy their government.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Iraq may not have had total freedom before we got there and killed saddam, but he DID provide for his people, people didn't starve, people had plumbing and electricity, people WERE able to live stable lives. We ****ed that up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

My entire dad's side of my family was born and raised in Iraq. It was a beautiful country. Its destruction is a horrible thing. There were artifacts in museums that were older than history there, literally 5-10 thousand year old artifacts in good shape that are gone now. Not to mention the 100k+ lives of innocent Iraqi's...who we 'liberated'...the rest of them knowing chances are they'll be killed any day

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Iraq may not have had total freedom before we got there and killed saddam, but he DID provide for his people, people didn't starve, people had plumbing and electricity, people WERE able to live stable lives. We ****ed that up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
My entire dad's side of my family was born and raised in Iraq. It was a beautiful country. Its destruction is a horrible thing. There were artifacts older than history in museums there, literally 5-10 thousand year old artifacts in good shape that are gone now. Not to mention the 100k+ lives of innocent Iraqi's...

do you call getting killed by mustard and sarin by the thousands "able to live a stable life"?

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Iraq may not have had total freedom before we got there and killed saddam, but he DID provide for his people, people didn't starve, people had plumbing and electricity, people WERE able to live stable lives. We ****ed that up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
My entire dad's side of my family was born and raised in Iraq. It was a beautiful country. Its destruction is a horrible thing. There were artifacts in museums that were older than history there, literally 5-10 thousand year old artifacts in good shape that are gone now. Not to mention the 100k+ lives of innocent Iraqi's...who we 'liberated'...the rest of them knowing chances are they'll be killed any day

what a joke, ok saddam was a great leader. maybe we shoulda made him president!!! what a joke.

so what made them leave if the country was so great and beautiful? whyd they come here?

do you call getting killed by mustard and sarin by the thousands "able to live a stable life"?

sounds stable to me. starving while the leader of the country had countless number of palaces with gold floors and toilets....

by the way rashaad talks saddam was a humanitarian haha

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Hell, the way Rashaad talks, everyone would want to live in Iraq.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I think Rashaddd is secretly one of the evil doers

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Iraq may not have had total freedom before we got there and killed saddam, but he DID provide for his people, people didn't starve, people had plumbing and electricity, people WERE able to live stable lives. We ****ed that up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
My entire dad's side of my family was born and raised in Iraq. It was a beautiful country. Its destruction is a horrible thing. There were artifacts in museums that were older than history there, literally 5-10 thousand year old artifacts in good shape that are gone now. Not to mention the 100k+ lives of innocent Iraqi's...who we 'liberated'...the rest of them knowing chances are they'll be killed any day

In a way I agree with you. We Americans are far too decent to effectively occupy a country such as Iraq. Had we been more brutal, there never would have been an insurgency. Perhaps in the near future the land of your father will be once again ran by a perverted, brutal mass murderer and everyone will be provided for once again. (Except those who are butchered of course).

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

Hell, the way Rashaad talks, everyone would want to live in Iraq.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif word, i know most of the iraqis i worked with and was around didnt like it, and said its better now than it was. But who knows. Them mother ****ers lie all the time. They side with whoever they are talking to.

 

[mil81 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Iraq may not have had total freedom before we got there and killed saddam, but he DID provide for his people, people didn't starve, people had plumbing and electricity, people WERE able to live stable lives. We ****ed that up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
My entire dad's side of my family was born and raised in Iraq. It was a beautiful country. Its destruction is a horrible thing. There were artifacts in museums that were older than history there, literally 5-10 thousand year old artifacts in good shape that are gone now. Not to mention the 100k+ lives of innocent Iraqi's...who we 'liberated'...the rest of them knowing chances are they'll be killed any day

There are many troops over there building houses, and fixing up what has been destroyed. It's not like everyone got left high and dry. I'm not saying no bad was done, and I'm not saying everything is being done right right now either, but there is an effort to make things right over there.

Whether it was right or wrong to go over in the first place is definately debatable, but I know I have a few buddies over there involved in the construction of new houses, building, etc.

That is my Canadian view on things.

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

what a joke, ok saddam was a great leader. maybe we shoulda made him president!!! what a joke.
so what made them leave if the country was so great and beautiful? whyd they come here?

sounds stable to me. starving while the leader of the country had countless number of palaces with gold floors and toilets....

by the way rashaad talks saddam was a humanitarian haha

I never said saddam was a great leader, never even that he was a good leader, he was corrupt, brutal, and unforgiving, the way most dictators tend to be. I simply stated the fact that people were better off under his rule than they are now.

Hell, the way Rashaad talks, everyone would want to live in Iraq.

How so? I don't even really want to live there (even in the days of Saddam), and I certainly don't think I made it sound like the average person would...but there are much worse places in the world...(not so much ever since we invaded it).

I think Rashaddd is secretly one of the evil doers

lol

In a way I agree with you. We Americans are far too decent to effectively occupy a country such as Iraq. Had we been more brutal, there never would have been an insurgency. Perhaps in the near future the land of your father will be once again ran by a perverted, brutal mass murderer and everyone will be provided for once again. (Except those who are butchered of course).

People weren't randomly killed. People weren't randomly beat and constantly suffering without any reason. Oppose saddam and you'd be killed, yes. And people were. But would you rather live in a place where you know your limitations and actually know what you can and can't do in order to survive? Or would you rather live in a place where you are free to do as you please...but have a high chance of dying randomly anyday...

Not to mention the amount of terrorism we have encouraged by invading Iraq...the amount of violence we have precipitated because we are such a tough guy that doesn't take shit from no terrorists and gotta show em who's boss...even though we couldn't even be intelligent enough to realize terrorism is in no way the fault of a country. Let me guess...if terrorists from America (or so they believe) went and killed some people in China, they SHOULD come here and kill us and destroy our country right?

If you want to argue we are doing what is right by ending saddam's corrupt political reign, fine, why don't we do things like kill corrupt politicians in Africa who are letting their entire countries die off while they use the 'aid' we give them for themselves. Why don't we go do something about the genocide in darfur? Why don't we do a **** thing anywhere else? Oh right, Iraq sits on top of oil.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

The Iraqis I have interacted with are glad Sadaam's gone.

I enjoy freedom. I enjoy saying I'd love to fvck the brains out of a VP candidate and nothing bad will happen to me. I enjoy criticizing leaders for their foul ups.

I don't know where you get your data, but I wouldn't call America a place where people have a high chance of dying randomly.

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

The Iraqis I have interacted with are glad Sadaam's gone.
I enjoy freedom. I enjoy saying I'd love to fvck the brains out of a VP candidate and nothing bad will happen to me. I enjoy criticizing leaders for their foul ups.

I don't know where you get your data, but I wouldn't call America a place where people have a high chance of dying randomly.

The 'other place' i was referring to is post-American-invasion Iraq...not America. I know you're not that stupid...

And yea, Iraqi's are split usually on whether they think its an overall good thing or not. But not many with family still there or who still live there or were lucky enough to get out a live in the middle of all this, would agree they are glad the US did what it did. I personally have family there, some that were literally killed BY SADDAM PERSONALLY, and some who have died as a result of this war.