fi btl vs brahma

[jstinbc 10+ year member]

allright i was wondering what would be loudest either one 15" adire audio brahmah mark II d2 wich i have now. or a fi bl 15" d2 sub. i have a sundown saz 1500d and its going in either a 2000 chevy malibu or a 98 pontiac montana mini van //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif thanks to all

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[7ender 10+ year member]

1500 is alot for a mark II, which if I remember are rated at 1600 but can't take all of it.

A bl will take it nicely.

 

[chaunb3400 10+ year member]

BL, will get louder...I wouldnt throw more than 1000rms to a brahma MKII.

 

[jstinbc 10+ year member]

well ive been running the brahma with that amp for like 6 months now but no electrical upgrades so its prob not the full 1500

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Adire use to say a Brahma could, in the right box, reach full excursion with as little as 900 watts. I believe their sweet spot in power was in the 1000-1500 watt range, again depending on enclosure and application.

Your title says BTL, but post says Bl. Im guessing the title was a typo, as a BTL and Brahma are very different drivers not worthy of comparing really. I dont know which would get louder, but Id take a MKII Brahma over a BL anyday. If what you desire is more sheer output, try looking at different enclosures, or change over to a raw SPL driver like a DD 9500, RE MT, Fi BTL, etc and go with a [relatively] high tuned ported enclosure.

Cheers.

 

[KyleBechtold 5,000+ posts]

Adire use to say a Brahma could, in the right box, reach full excursion with as little as 900 watts. I believe their sweet spot in power was in the 1000-1500 watt range, again depending on enclosure and application.
Your title says BTL, but post says Bl. Im guessing the title was a typo, as a BTL and Brahma are very different drivers not worthy of comparing really. I dont know which would get louder, but Id take a MKII Brahma over a BL anyday. If what you desire is more sheer output, try looking at different enclosures, or change over to a raw SPL driver like a DD 9500, RE MT, Fi BTL, etc and go with a [relatively] high tuned ported enclosure.

Cheers.

btls aren't to good with numbers.. they are a low end monster with a fs of 30-32 they don't meter to well. They do get loud as hell though

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Correct me if Im wrong, but the BTL with the correct configuration is Fi's SPL driver. A close relation to the MT. And from what Ive heard, the btl's response is pretty peaky, like a traditional SPL oriented driver would be.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

they are a low end monster with a fs of 30-32 they don't meter to well.

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[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

2 totally different genres of sub. a Q is more an even matchup for the brahma. the tumult would be more comparable to the btl

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

btls aren't to good with numbers.. they are a low end monster with a fs of 30-32 they don't meter to well. They do get loud as hell though

They do numbers fine, if you want to point out numbers it simply comes down to the install in which it is in. (Mike did a 179.3 with the 15's last year with very little power.Carlos and a few super street guys run them but we simply do not focus on anything to do "numbers")..just the vast majority of stuff you "See" on the internet is geared around bass race...and big daily driving type setups.

The current BTL is a far shot ahead of an MT..as the first generation BTL did use the same triple stack of 220mm magnets..but was still vastly different than a MT. The single slug motor is ~15% or so stronger with full cooling and daily tolerances than the 3 stack motor with no cooling and SPL (very tight) tolerances...

It can sound great...if you know what you are doing. I've used variants of them in Pro-Sound installs..as well as home theater...and If I didn't say what it was nobody would be the wiser //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

To the OP:

The Brahma needs nothing more then 600 watts..800 tops. It is a 4 layer 32mm long copper coil..it is not meant to take a ton of power, odds are you would kill it with that amplifier as you do not have much margin for error.

 

[Marlo Stanfield 10+ year member]

The Brahma MKII was IMO the best all around driver ever made... I used to run a 15 w/ anywhere from 800-1500 watts from different amps and it loved each power level, but IMO is run best around 1k-1200 daily.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

The BL sounds like the choice for this.

 

[jstinbc 10+ year member]

Your title says BTL, but post says Bl. Im guessing the title was a typo, as a BTL and Brahma are very different drivers not worthy of comparing really

Cheers.

yes title was a typo, so you guys are sying im pushing to much power for my sub to handle??

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

yes title was a typo, so you guys are sying im pushing to much power for my sub to handle??

Nope.