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[RangerMan Premium Member]

The Carolina Hurricanes are in the Stanley Cup FINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Phatillusion 5,000+ posts]

and the Braves got a couple of busted up players tonight including Chipper and Andruw.

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

So did Marcus Giles. Chipper is listed as day to day with a bruised right calf. I don't know about Giles though.

 

[Phatillusion 5,000+ posts]

Ranger, What do you think of all this comotion about steroid use? I kinda believe that 50 percent of players have tried steroids at one time in their career. I mean think about it, the more homeruns and what not the more you get paid. Steroids help with strength thus helping with performance, a routine fly ball out, now turns into a homerun or a gap shot. It's getting to the point where some of the ball players are starting to look like they belong in the WWF. I lifted weights while playing baseball in high school, I worked out for 3 hours a day in the off season and I didn't put nearly as much muscle as some of them do. I just wonder about the players that go from nobody's to stars. I agree with Frank Thomas, he's been cheated.

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

What I think is that yes about half of them have used steroids, but most not on a regular basis. As much as I dislike Jose Canseco, I plan on buying his book in which he says that over 75% of players use steroids. There is a couple of players that I do not believe use steroids, and Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds are two of them. AS for John Rocker, the reason he sucks at pitching is because he uses steroids. He built up the muscle mass of a power hitter, not a pitcher. I am firmly against the use of any and all steroids, as I seem them as a quick fix for power.

 

[Phatillusion 5,000+ posts]

I know this is a little off topic, but what do you all think about the new $20 bill, do you think it is a coincidence or was it a warning?

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

I have not heard about it, can you fill me in???

 

[Phatillusion 5,000+ posts]

The new $20 bill if folded a certain way, depicts the World Trade Center with smoke billowing out of the top, if turned to the opposite side, it shows the Pentagon with smoke coming out of it also. The design for the bill was made in 1998, and many people think that it was a warning, many others are offended and think it's just a coincidence. Thus the fact that if you add the month of September (9) and the 11th it equals 20, thus you have the 20 dollar bill. So basically what people are trying to say is that the government was involved in the 9/11 attacks, and someone knew it was being planned and planted a hidden message, which was discovered a month or so ago. I've folded the 20 and it does kinda look like what they are talking about, but it's not a perfect picture, but it's close if you "see through the lines." I for one wouldn't rule out the fact that the government could have something to do with it. Simply because I ask myself this question "Would the government kill for money/power" and the answer is yes. So you ask yourself what money/power do they get out of the 9/11 attacks? The answer is quite simple, what has America wanted control of for so long? Oil, Oil, and more Oil. The US put the Taliban in power, asked to build a pipeline through Afganistan and the Taliban said no. So they devise a plan, bring in Bush (whose father is a supporter of war) and the plan is set. If you remember the attack on the US Embassy in Africa, Clinton just sent a few bombs over towards Afganistan, so our government knew that Clinton was not the war type, he would not approve of US forces going into a country and taking over. Anyhow, some people will get offended, but you cannot rule out our government's possible involvement, there is definitely a motive, there is no denial to that. I'm not saying they did or didn't, just saying there is a possibility.

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

I don't believe it, for a couple of reasons, but the main one is that the 2nd plane was never meant to hit the Pentagon, it was going for the White House, but made a sharp turn b/c I believe there was a struggle in the plane and the would not have been able to take it to the White House, which happened to the 4th plane in PA. Can you explain how to fold the 20, and does it have to be the 1998 model.

 

[Phatillusion 5,000+ posts]

Since it would be hard for me to explain, here is a website http://www.allbrevard.com

Scroll down a little bit and you will see the deal about the $20 bill, it will tell you how to fold it, and it will give you the actual WTC and Pentagon pictures to compare with. I also heard when the bill is folded another way, the word Osama and Arafat can be spelled out, don't know if that's true. But back to the government conspiracy, I certainly hope that they had nothing to do with it, but there is always an open window, there is the motive. But trust me, our government does not get involved in anything they can't benefit from, and I have to believe that they had oil on their mind when deciding whether to go into Afganistan, also setting the stage for Iraq. People don't realize the power of oil, and if our country controlled it. I will also bring something from Nastradamus into this (don't quote me word for word) anyhow, he said something to the effect of "the war to end all wars will take place in the middle east" "a man will come to power who wears a blue turbine" (most likely meaning politcal) "this person will say all the right things" "this person will cause the end of the world" I believe this person has already risen to power, his name is George W. Bush. He paved the way for many wars, using one simple term, terrorism. Think about it, if someone from our country did something horrific to another country, they would technically have the right to come in and attack us, how can our government say no? We did the same thing to another country. Now you have other countries blaming terrorism on other countries and they are threatening to go to war, to top things off, India and Pakistan are nuclear powers and have already set the stage for a nuclear war. How is anybody to stop them? They are coining Bush's phrase. I know he might mean well, he says all the right things that would make a cool president, but he is ignorant. That crooked smile hasn't fooled me. I could careless who our president is, they all lie, they are all crooked, it's the American way. I can't even say that if I were president that I would be perfect, temptation is man's biggest enemy.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by Phatillusion Ranger, What do you think of all this comotion about steroid use? I kinda believe that 50 percent of players have tried steroids at one time in their career. I mean think about it, the more homeruns and what not the more you get paid. Steroids help with strength thus helping with performance, a routine fly ball out, now turns into a homerun or a gap shot. It's getting to the point where some of the ball players are starting to look like they belong in the WWF. I lifted weights while playing baseball in high school, I worked out for 3 hours a day in the off season and I didn't put nearly as much muscle as some of them do. I just wonder about the players that go from nobody's to stars. I agree with Frank Thomas, he's been cheated.

I am firmly against any use of steroids. If you want to get big....do it the right way and train and lift weights etc. Drugs do NOT make you a better baseball player...I have guys on the team that I play on that take steroids and now they are so big that they have become the slowest players on the team. Sure a routine fly ball turns out into a gap shot, but it doesnt nessecarily mean that the player has gained any skill by taking steroids....Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds(thanks Rangerman) are two great ball players and I also believe that they dont take drugs....simply because they are talented and I dont think that they are that stupid to take drugs and bugger up their career's. The problem is now, that college athletes are taking drugs because they feel pressured to make the big leagues and think the only way to make it is to be big...I'll tell you right now, if I was picking a team, I would pick players based on skill, not size....simply because size doesnt mean anything...sure you have to be fairly big to swing a bat, but you dont have to look like Hulk Hogan up at the plate striking out or poping up very time because you have no skill...I really hope I dont start any conflict with this but I am just against any use of drugs in sports...an unfair advantage(sort of, only if you have the skills to back it up) and its just an easy way to increase power the lazy way.

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

I just thought of something, Bill Clinton was President in 1998, the year the new 20s came out...

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

Phat, I've got a good book for you if you are interested in government. I just started reading it. It is called "The Bureau". Its about the secrets of the FBI, and is a darn good book, as much as I hate to read.

 

[Phatillusion 5,000+ posts]

Ranger, I don't want to know more than I already know. It's disturbing what our government hides from us. Believe me, people from other countries don't hate us for no reason. Our government is a bully, we try to push our ways on other countries, we promise things that never get done. I don't want to think that our government is really the way they are, but you have to face the facts, they do things that are not morally right.

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

Yes I do believe it, and in the book, it shows MANY Secrets of the FBI.