excursion!!!

Did I say I agree with their prices? I'm sorry to break it to all of the fanboys out here, but there is very little special about most of your "high end" subwoofers. All you end up doing is paying for bigger motors, and beefier soft parts. At heart, they're still cookie cutter speakers using relatively the same technologies. It's companies like TC Sounds, Peerless, CSS, Morel, Focal, Aura and Bully when they were in business that were actually making serious innovations in driver design. These are the companies that are trying to maximize everything about a speaker, not just make it louder. Lowering inductance by changing the way faraday rings were utilized, raising cooling, maximizing linearity through asymmetrical voice coil winding, etc. Making the be all end all SPL woofer doesn't require any tricky technologies to allow your sub to play flat from 60hz to 10hz like a SS RL-S can. You're just paying to know that it can take god knows how many kilowatts and still survive.
Maybe it's just because I'm a SQ guy, who knows, but there are so many companies out there that are pumping out nearly the same exact speakers with the same double and triple stacked motors, cast baskets, 3" coils and stiff foam surrounds. I'm not knocking these companies because they're catering to their customers' demands. I'm asking you to just stop and think about what you're really paying for when you drop $1200 on an unknown brand's speaker whose selling points are a rubber speaker gasket, triple stacked motor, 5 spiders and multiple tinsel leads and a vague and misspelled high strength cone.
pv audio is the man!!!^^^ hell ya right here crazy good info! are u alowwed to copy this and make new thread with these in it? it will be aboput u pv audio!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
pv audio is the man!!!^^^ hell ya right here crazy good info! are u alowwed to copy this and make new thread with these in it? it will be aboput u pv audio!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
He's calling you a fool for being willing to spend the money on one of those subs with questionable specs and yet you say he's the man?

 
He's calling you a fool for being willing to spend the money on one of those subs with questionable specs and yet you say he's the man?
not really the prices are the same as any other high end sub out there!!!dd,fi,incriminator,aq,sundown,etc! and hes talking to me about the first sentence! and yes i say he is the man for explaint it to ALL!

 
He's calling you a fool for being willing to spend the money on one of those subs with questionable specs and yet you say he's the man?
I'm not calling anyone a fool for buying anything. I'm just telling people that paying 650 for one speaker versus 350 for one with similar specs likely won't be worth it because the technological differences are likely an extra chunk of ferrite, a flat wound coil out of aluminum, maybe some more tinsel and another spider. Is that worth 300 dollars? No. Is saying that it increases power handling by 1000W worth 300 dollars? To some.
 
pv audio is the man!!!^^^ hell ya right here crazy good info! are u alowwed to copy this and make new thread with these in it? it will be aboput u pv audio!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
You can go ahead and do whatever you want with what I just said, I was just speaking my mind. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
 
not really the prices are the same as any other high end sub out there!!!dd,fi,incriminator,aq,sundown,etc! and hes talking to me about the first sentence! and yes i say he is the man for explaint it to ALL!
AQ's hdc3 is like 280 shipped and BMA's sub is 1200...how is this the same??? face it this company is a stupid find.

 
I'm not calling anyone a fool for buying anything. I'm just telling people that paying 650 for one speaker versus 350 for one with similar specs likely won't be worth it because the technological differences are likely an extra chunk of ferrite, a flat wound coil out of aluminum, maybe some more tinsel and another spider. Is that worth 300 dollars? No. Is saying that it increases power handling by 1000W worth 300 dollars? To some.
i know what ur saying yes. i would actually never buy a bma subwoofer untill they lower the price! like i said already! thats why i have incriminator audio different from everyone else and bump like a mofo!! ia ftw baby!

 
AQ's hdc3 is like 280 shipped and BMA's sub is 1200...how is this the same??? face it this company is a stupid find.
we know this dumb dumb! its not a find and its not extroidinary. i was just letting people know that there is different options when looking for a subwoofer! its not 1200 thats msrp!! and its not the same as aq! hes comparing it to all the others that use 12 spoke baskets and tripple stacked motors and 1in sluges etc.

 
You talk like you're stupid.
But that's okay, here you go.

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My point exactly. Upping the power handling by 1kw doesn't cost $1000.
yes i know it doesnt. and it never should. and i really dont understand why compaines like this put there mspr out when that could tell the real price and gain customers??

 
Did I say I agree with their prices? I'm sorry to break it to all of the fanboys out here, but there is very little special about most of your "high end" subwoofers. All you end up doing is paying for bigger motors, and beefier soft parts. At heart, they're still cookie cutter speakers using relatively the same technologies. It's companies like TC Sounds, Peerless, CSS, Morel, Focal, Aura and Bully when they were in business that were actually making serious innovations in driver design. These are the companies that are trying to maximize everything about a speaker, not just make it louder. Lowering inductance by changing the way faraday rings were utilized, raising cooling, maximizing linearity through asymmetrical voice coil winding, etc. Making the be all end all SPL woofer doesn't require any tricky technologies to allow your sub to play flat from 60hz to 10hz like a SS RL-S can. You're just paying to know that it can take god knows how many kilowatts and still survive.
Maybe it's just because I'm a SQ guy, who knows, but there are so many companies out there that are pumping out nearly the same exact speakers with the same double and triple stacked motors, cast baskets, 3" coils and stiff foam surrounds. I'm not knocking these companies because they're catering to their customers' demands. I'm asking you to just stop and think about what you're really paying for when you drop $1200 on an unknown brand's speaker whose selling points are a rubber speaker gasket, triple stacked motor, 5 spiders and multiple tinsel leads and a vague and misspelled high strength cone.
You read way too far into my post. I was simply responding to this:

They are going to be needing to at the least halve those prices. They can't be that good. DD, Sundown, DC, RD, RE, no one charges those sorts of prices.
You said those brands don't have those kinds of prices, I was merely saying that they do, and that a MSRP that high isn't out of the question, or uncommon by any means.

 
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