excursion!!!

[deathpenalty18 10+ year member]

the black market audio st 1200 10

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[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

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http://www.blackmarketaudio.net/streetgeneralsubwoofer.htm

I KNOW they're kidding with those prices. There is not a subwoofer on the market worth that much, let alone for the 12's price.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

And Jesus Christ, who designed their webpage? Every time I get to the end of a sentence, something pops the **** up and distracts me. I don't want spinning speakers and flash animations while I'm trying to read about the product. Simple, clean, and attractive. Not white, red and epileptic.

http://www.blackmarketaudio.net/teambma.htm

 

[Ekimdude 10+ year member]

Yeah the subs look alright but that price is ridiculous. Alot better subs can be had, alot cheaper.

 

[deathpenalty18 10+ year member]

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I KNOW they're kidding with those prices. There is not a subwoofer on the market worth that much, let alone for the 12's price.

yea they are but thats msrp. i just eamiled them about pricing no reply yet1 so well see what happens!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

yea they are but thats msrp. i just eamiled them about pricing no reply yet1 so well see what happens!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

They are going to be needing to at the least halve those prices. They can't be that good. DD, Sundown, DC, RD, RE, no one charges those sorts of prices.

 

[deathpenalty18 10+ year member]

They are going to be needing to at the least halve those prices. They can't be that good. DD, Sundown, DC, RD, RE, no one charges those sorts of prices.

yea better be half or they will never get buisness!! yea we only know if we try bc this is only good vid of the sub and realy know one else knows what there doing that has them! lol

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

yea they are but thats msrp. i just eamiled them about pricing no reply yet1 so well see what happens!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

No but see, unlike most SQ subs or innovative technologies, nothing on those even begins to hint as to how the materials and labor cost anywhere near that.

 

[deathpenalty18 10+ year member]

No but see, unlike most SQ subs or innovative technologies, nothing on those even begins to hint as to how the materials and labor cost anywhere near that.

wouldnt take these as sq subs really1 i know the st 1600 and street general is for spl!!

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

They are going to be needing to at the least halve those prices. They can't be that good. DD, Sundown, DC, RD, RE, no one charges those sorts of prices.

The retail price is right in line with other companies' top tier subs...Super Heavyweight, DD 9900's, DC LVL5's, etc. I think the LVL5 is the cheapest out of them all. But I know the MSRP on the 18" SHW is 1400, and I'm sure an 18" 9900 retails at over a grand as well, since 9518's cost in the 600-700 range direct, not even msrp.

Granted, the BMA sub looks just like a standard big woofer, nothing to set it apart from the herd.

 

[deathpenalty18 10+ year member]

The retail price is right in line with other companies' top tier subs...Super Heavyweight, DD 9900's, DC LVL5's, etc. I think the LVL5 is the cheapest out of them all. But I know the MSRP on the 18" SHW is 1400, and I'm sure an 18" 9900 retails at over a grand as well, since 9518's cost in the 600-700 range direct, not even msrp.
Granted, the BMA sub looks just like a standard big woofer, nothing to set it apart from the herd.

thats hwy im curious to try it out!!

 

[michaellane 5,000+ posts]

yea better be half or they will never get buisness!! yea we only know if we try bc this is only good vid of the sub and realy know one else knows what there doing that has them! lol

why do you care so much? ssackett can build you the same sub with that cookie cutter triple slug mottor for like 225....why are you pushing these subs soo hard? youd spend 500$ on there 12 just to try it out? if they were that great you wouldnt be the first to see them or find them

 

[michaellane 5,000+ posts]

 

[hatedonmostly 5,000+ posts]

Seem decent...

Really nice excursion in the first vid though.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

The retail price is right in line with other companies' top tier subs...Super Heavyweight, DD 9900's, DC LVL5's, etc. I think the LVL5 is the cheapest out of them all. But I know the MSRP on the 18" SHW is 1400, and I'm sure an 18" 9900 retails at over a grand as well, since 9518's cost in the 600-700 range direct, not even msrp.
Granted, the BMA sub looks just like a standard big woofer, nothing to set it apart from the herd.

Did I say I agree with their prices? I'm sorry to break it to all of the fanboys out here, but there is very little special about most of your "high end" subwoofers. All you end up doing is paying for bigger motors, and beefier soft parts. At heart, they're still cookie cutter speakers using relatively the same technologies. It's companies like TC Sounds, Peerless, CSS, Morel, Focal, Aura and Bully when they were in business that were actually making serious innovations in driver design. These are the companies that are trying to maximize everything about a speaker, not just make it louder. Lowering inductance by changing the way faraday rings were utilized, raising cooling, maximizing linearity through asymmetrical voice coil winding, etc. Making the be all end all SPL woofer doesn't require any tricky technologies to allow your sub to play flat from 60hz to 10hz like a SS RL-S can. You're just paying to know that it can take god knows how many kilowatts and still survive.
Maybe it's just because I'm a SQ guy, who knows, but there are so many companies out there that are pumping out nearly the same exact speakers with the same double and triple stacked motors, cast baskets, 3" coils and stiff foam surrounds. I'm not knocking these companies because they're catering to their customers' demands. I'm asking you to just stop and think about what you're really paying for when you drop $1200 on an unknown brand's speaker whose selling points are a rubber speaker gasket, triple stacked motor, 5 spiders and multiple tinsel leads and a vague and misspelled high strength cone.