Evil-ution

[ahole-ic]

Its funny, I dont recall you telling me what you meant by it either, if not to insult me. I remember you claiming it wasn't an insult, with absolutely no further explanation though. Only you would change my name to ahole-ic, claim its fair to say because its true, and then do a 180 and claim it wasn't meant to insult, and expect nobody to ask what it DID mean then.
I dont mean to derail this thread to discuss a year-old argument, because I think this thread did a decent job getting back on topic last night. But I also wont sit around and let you lie about my motives, lie about your motives, and then ignore every request for you to explain yourself.

So in conclusion, I look forward to you explaining how changing my name to "ahole-ic" was not an insult, and I look forward to you posting the "evidence" I deleted. Or, I look forward to everyone here seeing what a petty liar you are. Have a great day. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Nah I explained it to you. You simply did not like the spelling of my explanation and you thought you discredited it. You didn't. I told you the truth, you just didn't like it.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

If you wanted to be specific cot sarcastically called me "brain child". I started name calling? Pro rabbit made an implied slam on me, and I countered by using his un-specificity against him. CLEARLY I wasn't actually calling cot an ahole. Please refer to post 63 where I say this to cot " My insult of you earlier was purely satire to demonstrate a point to rabbit." It was satire. He also lost a debate to me in the past and hates me, the same with Rammed, manti5, and yourself. You all have alterior motives. If you look through past political threads I've been in you'll find I"m telling the truth. Rammed is particularly upset because I proved him wrong on Iraq... but that's beside the point.

Man, seems like everyone loses arguments to you...you are an internet badass! Why would you assume I'm mad? More like frustrated that your replies are getting increasingly delusional as you type the same drivel while negating every point brought up that proves you wrong. And no, don't ask me what points, I don't play those games.

Also, where's that explanation bro!?!? Keep on avoiding it, it only makes you look like more of a liar.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

If you wanted to be specific cot sarcastically called me "brain child". I started name calling? Pro rabbit made an implied slam on me, and I countered by using his un-specificity against him. CLEARLY I wasn't actually calling cot an ahole. Please refer to post 63 where I say this to cot " My insult of you earlier was purely satire to demonstrate a point to rabbit." It was satire. He also lost a debate to me in the past and hates me, the same with Rammed, manti5, and yourself. You all have alterior motives. If you look through past political threads I've been in you'll find I"m telling the truth. Rammed is particularly upset because I proved him wrong on Iraq... but that's beside the point.

What debate did I lose again? I do not recall ever losing one, I recall you saying nothing on earth is valid and that you won. Much as you are here and with any other post in the dome you make. Then you consistently disrespect everyone and proclaim you are infallible with the exception that I busted you on the hypocrite idea.

I stand by my analogy of your personal character. If you want I can give my professional opinion of what type of issues you may have based on how you post. I'm sure you would just say I am upset. Which I am not. Sorry to upset you so much that you felt the need to keep bringing it up. Which shows I got under your skin rather quickly.

As stated and I made clear later on. I passed judgement on your character and that my comment is 100% true per those guidelines. Would you like to debate this? If so I would gladly like to explain why you have a sever disorder that you may or may not know you have.

As a side note, I must have made a huge impact on you though. It would appear that all these posts direct right back to mine according to you. So really what your saying is that I attack you and that you defended yourself in a manor that needed you to disrespect everyone in this thread. So two wrongs make a right? Hmm.... Nope not seeing how that works.

 

[ahole-ic]

What debate did I lose again? I do not recall ever losing one, I recall you saying nothing on earth is valid and that you won. Much as you are here and with any other post in the dome you make. Then you consistently disrespect everyone and proclaim you are infallible with the exception that I busted you on the hypocrite idea.
I stand by my analogy of your personal character. If you want I can give my professional opinion of what type of issues you may have based on how you post. I'm sure you would just say I am upset. Which I am not. Sorry to upset you so much that you felt the need to keep bringing it up. Which shows I got under your skin rather quickly.

As stated and I made clear later on. I passed judgement on your character and that my comment is 100% true per those guidelines. Would you like to debate this? If so I would gladly like to explain why you have a sever disorder that you may or may not know you have.

As a side note, I must have made a huge impact on you though. It would appear that all these posts direct right back to mine according to you. So really what your saying is that I attack you and that you defended yourself in a manor that needed you to disrespect everyone in this thread. So two wrongs make a right? Hmm.... Nope not seeing how that works.

I'll not be acknowledging the troll rammed anymore as that's clear that's all he is. He is now ignored. Pro if you'd like me to post the thread I can... I don't see the need as when ahole-ic requested that and I complied he got even more bent out of shape... so I'd prefer not to repeat the behavior but the statement remains true.

Yeah I'd like to hear what you have to say.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

I'll not be acknowledging the troll rammed anymore as that's clear that's all he is. He is now ignored.

Just admit that the nickname ahole-ic is referring to him being an asshole. But we all know you won't. You'll probably just quote this post as being ignored and go on your crazy, delusional way, where everything you spew is gospel. Or just ignore it altogether and not even quote it.

Either you're going to do as I said, or you'll prove that I'm not on ignore by responding....I'm waiting.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Well it is obvious that way you post would suggest you have a personality disorder. More then likely a superiority complex. This would be suggested by your method of posting and your choice of words. Your posts direct everyone that they can not prove you wrong do to your vast knowledge of what ever is being discussed/debated. The way your replies are directed and derogatory suggest that you think those who debate you are not on your level of intelligence thus wasting your time.

However, your other issue is bit more hidden and depending on the severity could completely take way the idea you suffer from a superiority complex. All though I have not pin pointed the exact issue, the signs are clear enough for even you to acknowledge. Even though your apparent superiority complex would suggest that no one can debate you, you still decide to post...many times. This is a little troubling that is almost a direct contradiction of the personality disorder, unless you are doing it in an attempt to force others to have your view point. Still working on this topic to be honest..it is a bit of an enigma and not easily pin pointed.

You also seem to require the approval and acknowledgement of the forum. This would suggest perhaps you are the kind of person that requires a "pat on the back" or "good job" to keep up their motivation. Your posts that suggest others(naming them) lost to debates against you heavily leans toward this. It is no different then a fighter name dropping on guys they have defeated to validate their claim that they are better then some one else.

I'm on my phone right now, but I will try and go deeper into this once I get out of the shop and into the office.

 

[ahole-ic]

Well it is obvious that way you post would suggest you have a personality disorder. More then likely a superiority complex. This would be suggested by your method of posting and your choice of words. Your posts direct everyone that they can not prove you wrong do to your vast knowledge of what ever is being discussed/debated. The way your replies are directed and derogatory suggest that you think those who debate you are not on your level of intelligence thus wasting your time.

That's odd. That's exactly how I described ahole-ic. I don't claim to have a superior KNOWLEDGE. I don't claim to have superior anything to be honest. I use logic in a debate. Sometimes, while debating someone else the logic will fail and I will begin to see that my position is weaker. I concede that point and if necessary the entire position. I showed you this earlier in the thread. People with superiority complexes need to ALWAYS be right. They don't admit when they have made a mistake as I did to you previously in this thread. When people cannot logically defend their position, it totally depends on how they react to that for how i will react to them. For instance, refer to your initial posts in this thread. You came into it looking to insult me indirectly. Hoping that by doing so, you would not be vulnerable to any rebuttal. You used a logical fallacy also. Your argument was basically that "everyone knows" etc. I baited you into responding by deflecting your insult to another member that you did not intend. This did two things. It first made you think that I did not realize your attack, thus wasting it.... but you could have just told yourself I was too stupid to perceive your innuendo and moved on if it were not for the possibility of cot thinking you were insulting him. So, you had to come down from your ivory tower and get right into the fray with everyone else. In your posts, you have not used logic to defend your position, but instead have insisted that since you are part of some majority that you are intrinsically correct and any other position is inherently inferior. I wouldn't think this is a superiority complex. I think it is a careful way to mask an inferiority complex. That explains why you felt compelled to attempt to insult me for no good reason and without anything to back it up. It explains now why you are attempting to look superior after your initial attacks were parried.

However, your other issue is bit more hidden and depending on the severity could completely take way the idea you suffer from a superiority complex. All though I have not pin pointed the exact issue, the signs are clear enough for even you to acknowledge. Even though your apparent superiority complex would suggest that no one can debate you, you still decide to post...many times. This is a little troubling that is almost a direct contradiction of the personality disorder, unless you are doing it in an attempt to force others to have your view point. Still working on this topic to be honest..it is a bit of an enigma and not easily pin pointed.

So in summation, your initial psychoanalysis may not be correct at all? I might just enjoy a good debate? Cool.

You also seem to require the approval and acknowledgement of the forum. This would suggest perhaps you are the kind of person that requires a "pat on the back" or "good job" to keep up their motivation. Your posts that suggest others(naming them) lost to debates against you heavily leans toward this. It is no different then a fighter name dropping on guys they have defeated to validate their claim that they are better then some one else.

This last one I've got to just say you've completely dropped the ball on. I wasn't seeking ANYONE's approval. I was pointing out why each person was personally attacking me. You're all calling me crazy and saying I have disorders. All you've done, is unknowingly confirmed what I said.

I'm on my phone right now, but I will try and go deeper into this once I get out of the shop and into the office.

I look forward to it.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

You quoted my post and began telling me how i was arguing for religion. You framed an argument around it. You said I was applying "pro-religion spin" when I wasn't and said "it's not surprising". I replied basically laughing at that attempt and you replied by saying "I suggested you will continually hide behind what you do not say, rather than what you DO say." in post 136. These are not arguing the topic. They are comments regarding ME personally. So yes you attacked me first, by trying to frame my argument and then when I pointed out what you were doing you insulted me. No amount of lying will hide that fact ahole-ic.
I'm a member of MANY other forums, as it's my choice to do so. I own tens of forums and the best way to get people to your forum is to join other forums. I don't have problems at other places... or with other mods. It's just you.

You seem to think that if you keep lying about it people will forget you challenged me to produce that thread. LOL.

I never said my site in question was great. I said you weren't qualified to judge because you have no idea what you're talking about. The site was started in late 2010. There are tons of car audio sites that have spawned due to this one being run by egotistical mods on power trips, who run off members able to contribute which passively promotes a cesspool of misinformation. This is why you have tons of people saying "caps hurt more than they help", "just add tons of batteries instead of an alt it's cheaper", and ignorant things like that.

You have seen me dish out what I received. Lol yes that is the definition of defensive but if you think I'm going to allow an egotistical mod to put me down when he is clearly lying you are mistaken. I showed what you were doing, just like in the deadener thread. I predicted it, and just like the deadener thread you got mad and now you're on a tirade, which is why you took a thread that was no longer discussing that issue just like the deadener thread and continued your personal onslaught. You can't let things go because you're a petty power hungry egotistical jerk. You have some sort of self-esteem tied up in this forum and you NEED to appear superior. That's fine man, do it to someone else. By now you should know that you don't possess the intellectual ability to logically hang with me. Lie and spin and put me down, but there was no reason for your insults that caused me to defend myself other than your acknowledgement that your attempts to argue my points had failed.

Wrong. I accurately called you an elitist along with all of the other people in the thread saying they were intellectually superior and did not have to prove what they were saying. Then I called you hypocrites for denouncing all religion because it cannot be proved, yet saying that evolution doesn't have to be proved and it is unquestionably accurate. Those things are dead-on accurate. You can't dispute them. They are not insults. You took them as derogatory, but that's your fault. I called your argument incompetent... not you. Check post 132 on page 9 for that. I even explained why I called the group you belong to hypocrites. It has not been challenged that I have seen.

Who banned me? Seems pretty straight-forward and anything but absurd. You deleted the posts where I foretold what you were doing. You refused to move the thread to the dome at the poster's request after there was no technical information contained within. You did so, so the tech section rules would apply and you would have grounds to ban me. ahole-ic is a shortened version of your name whether you like it or not. You knew who I was talking about didn't you? I don't remember explaining who that name was for. So because you knew what that was for, you understand it was a shortened version of your name, and you implied a curseword. You weren't called on. ALL of my posts before and after contain that word, yet you deleted the two that foretold your intentions. You cannot hide that fact. Now, a year later you have undeleted them and that somehow undoes the reason you deleted them to begin with? No. It just puts it on full display for all to see.

Why would I go back and post in it? The only reason you could be baiting me to do it, is so you look justified when you ban me again. Nothing backfired on me. That's plainly obvious. I know you want it to, just like you wish I'd have argued from some religious standpoint. The problem is, those are both figments of your vivid imagination and you simply cannot make them reality.

You can't upset me. You're just a forum mod on a power trip. It's a lot of fun showing you for what you are. I admitted I was wrong IN THIS VERY THREAD to another member, so you cannot possibly justify this comment. The fact remains when it comes to you and I, I have not been wrong yet... or at least you have failed to prove otherwise. You have got visibly mad and banned me...and in this thread resurrected a dead off-topic argument for the sole purpose of making yourself look superior. There was no other reason.

I see you want me to go back to the fatmat thread and get off topic in a technical section, giving you clear grounds to ban me. Look don't bother telling me you can ban me at any time for any reason.... your appearance is clearly important to you. You want some justification for it so you don't tell on yourself so badly. I'm not going to fall for your trap.... because I'm not ego driven like you. I just like making you tell on yourself.

Yes I know, me saying you are applying pro-religion spin, and that its not a surprising stance since its becoming more common these days, was a horrible attack against your character. Its not like you told someone they "fail hard" in post #10, that people who oppose you are 'blimdly assuming' facts in post #15, that someone's logic is "so full of holes it's not funny" in post #21, that cotjones has a 'bunch of made up crap' in post #22, that cotjones is an ******* in post #32, etc etc. No, none of those are "attacks", but me saying you are applying pro-religious spin IS an "attack". Double standards. So I looked past all those semi-insulting posts, again many of which are from you, and looked at who started name calling first. Who was that again... oh yeah... you. If you complain that any comments that are of a personal level are "attacks", I suggest you stop making the yourself before claiming the moral high ground. And there is no denying you and you alone raised the bar by calling cotjones an *******, just like you raised the insult bar in the fatmat thread. Hypocrite. Grow some thicker skin, or quit trying to play with the big kids.

Where have I lied? Where have I tried to suggest I didnt ask you to 'produce' the thread in question when you claimed I had deleted 'evidence'. Newsflash, I DID challenge you to produce the thread. You produced it, but did NOT produce a single shred of evidence I tried to cover anything up.

...and just like the deadener thread you got mad and now you're on a tirade, which is why you took a thread that was no longer discussing that issue just like the deadener thread and continued your personal onslaught.

Its funny the guy who has so little self control he cant engage in a debate without calling people names is saying Im on a tirade. lol As for continuing my 'personal onslaught', again it was you, not me, who brought up a year-old thread and attacked me personally by saying I abused mod powers to cover up evidence you now refuse to produce, discuss, or even acknowledge that I keep asking you to provide.

ahole-ic is a shortened version of your name whether you like it or not

This is why people dont back you up. Audioholic.... where's the "e" bro? Its funny watching you oscillate between claiming it was okay to call me an ******* because you feel its true, and this pathetic attempt to claim you never meant to insinuate the word asshole. Your inability to admit you were trying to call me a name only shows you know you are guilty of it, which only shows me and everyone else here how petty you will act in any attempt to save face.

Who banned me?

The infraction system. Any other redundant questions you'd like to ask?

Why would I go back and post in it? The only reason you could be baiting me to do it, is so you look justified when you ban me again. Nothing backfired on me. That's plainly obvious. I know you want it to, just like you wish I'd have argued from some religious standpoint.

You keep implying Im dying to ban you, but there is some hidden force stopping me from doing so. There is no hidden force stopping me from banning you. You seem to think I have a grudge against you. The truth is that I dont care enough about you either way to think about you beyond our occasional debates like this one. Clearly its you who has been smoldering about me, for at least a year now.

The hidden force you suggest keeps me from banning you is my fear of looking justified. Yet you also claim Im baiting you into responding in the fatmat thread, per my request, so I can ban you. Yeah, that would look way ethical, right? You are delusional.

You have got visibly mad and banned me...and in this thread resurrected a dead off-topic argument for the sole purpose of making yourself look superior.

Wait, who resurrected the dead off-topic argument? lol! Dude come on, everyone in this thread knows you brought up the fatmat thread, not me. Everyone here knows you brought it up to defame me and make yourself look artificially oppressed. Why do you think you can simply rewrite what actually happened? Want me to go back and quote where you brought it up, again? lol

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I see you want me to go back to the fatmat thread and get off topic in a technical section, giving you clear grounds to ban me. Look don't bother telling me you can ban me at any time for any reason.... your appearance is clearly important to you. You want some justification for it so you don't tell on yourself so badly. I'm not going to fall for your trap.... because I'm not ego driven like you. I just like making you tell on yourself.

I CAN ban you at any time. No, not for 'just any' reason. But yes, I could ban you, right now, for being an overly problematic member. Think MoT or WD or even Goob would side with you? If you do, then you really are clueless as to how you are perceived on this forum. You are a trouble maker, you advertise your website as your s/n, you try to recruit people from this site to your own... all things I and the other mods here let you slide on. Yet you seem to think you are some sort of model member, and Im just out to get you. I could ban you, today, this morning, now. No, that is not a threat, its a simple statement of fact. I wont ban you, because I dont think it would be fair to you without at least warning you of what you would need to change in order to avoid that ban. And yes, I could have banned you in the fatmat thread, perma-banned you if Id wanted to, and I am quite confident it would not have been opposed. So keep up your little fairytale that you are so much more important to me than you really are.

Tell ya what bro, since Im tired of your excuses for avoiding the thread now, I will move the fatmat thread to the t-dome. Even though no tech section rules would have needed to be broken in order for you to post that "evidence" I deleted here, in this thread, in the t-dome. Even though I invited you to go post off-topic info in the fatmat thread, which means I would NOT have banned you for it... I will remove yet another of your excuses by moving it to the t-dome. Looking forward to seeing you there, posting that oh-so scary evidence I deleted. This should be fun.

Oh, and Im still waiting for your explanation of how ahole-ic is just an innocent shortening of my s/n. Go ahead, keep making yourself look oh so smart by claiming my name has an E in it. I know you want to get under my skin, real bad like, but you simply dont have the capability to do so. So yes, keep calling me ahole-ic here, since YOU are the butthurt one, it only serves to remind me of how petty and childish you really are.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Well it is obvious that way you post would suggest you have a personality disorder. More then likely a superiority complex.

Exactly. You guys notice what's really pissed eCrack off in this thread? I have. Its not that people have different beliefs than him, its that he feels they think it makes them smarter than him. His ego, and yes probably personality issues, wont allow him to rest while there is someone out there that might *gasp* think they are smarter than him. I havent mentioned it til now, because Ive just enjoyed watching him rant about people who have the nerve to think they are right about a topic that he is wrong about.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

As I suspected you would suggest that this is an attempt of some kind of attack against you and if you feel that way we can do this via PM as I have no reason to "bash" you in public. As for my first post, I knew very well that you knew it was directed at you. There is no secrete that the majority feel that way, so by your logic it is a logical assumption to make since it is a vast majority and the way you post suggest that very thing.

I suggested I could post up what I read in your posts. I even told you will not like what I type. However, you asked to have it posted anyway. I did say they were not 100% correct or exact as I would need to speak to you in person in order to see if it is just this forum where you issues arise or if it is actually an every day issue that perhaps you do not know you have.

I agree to an extent about the superiority complex to an extent. However, every time you contradict that you go back to it again and again by the way you respond to posts. Again, I am going off what I am reading and nothing more. It is not just pertained to this thread, but all "debate" threads you have been a part of.

You can make any claims all you like about how you meant the posts to come across or what your intentions are. However, your actions do speak louder then your remarks. Think this way, if you do not agree with that quick assessment then perhaps you should alter what you say or at least how you say it.

And yes, there can be a variety of under lying issues that would take more then just reading your posts to figure out the issues with in your posting.

Even in a debate where we already know there is nothing for sure you start by attempting to drag me into the debate as if I am a topic. However I am not. You are the topic of our debate. Attempting to turn it back on me does nothing for anyone here. A few of us have chosen to post what the mass majority think on this forum of how you post. I personally don't care if you think you are god, just post it differently and all would be ok in the end.

What other forums are you and what name do you use? I would like to search and see if you post the same way everyone else or just here. If it is only here then the original disorder would be more then likely the cause. The basis for that would be on other sites you feel there are equals or better. Here you would not.

I'm sure you know that pshycollogy in many circles is a pseudo science anyway and dismissed quickly. If that is your thoughts on it that is fine...just means your personality(on this forum at least) would suggest you are an ass whole. No I did not call you, I'm just offering another option. Enjoying a debate is what holic and I have done on several occasions in the tech section. Some where rather long and never once got heated or out of hand as we both enjoy a debate from the angle of wanting to know the truth. If one of us wrong we want to know and we grow from that. No personal attacks have ever happened in those debates, even by other posters in those threads.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

The fatmat thread has been moved to the t-dome.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

The fatmat thread has been moved to the t-dome.

Along with a call out it would seem. Maybe answers will be had with that offer?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

People with superiority complexes need to ALWAYS be right. They don't admit when they have made a mistake

You mean like when you now refuse to admit you were calling me an asshole by changing my name to ahole-ic? Does anyone here, absolutely anyone, believe that? Feel free to speak up if you do.

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[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Along with a call out it would seem. Maybe answers will be had with that offer?

I know, I feel somewhat petty by letting this goes so far.... but eCrack has questioned my morality and my use of the mod powers here, so I feel I must take this seriously. I wont let him undermine me with his lies. Every time Im replying to him here, I keep telling myself that old saying about arguing with an idiot... they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. lol