Events leading up to sept 11

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

China is predicted to be the economic power of the world in ~30 years by some estimates....don't know enough about it to make an educated statement beyond that.

As far as the anti-american bullshit going around....read the constitution. You call me un-american again for standing up against and questioning an abusive and currupt government - for not supporting lies....you sir are a moron. The country was built on the foundation that we should overthrow a government if it trys to remove our rights or becomes currupt or too powerful. Ours has done all 3, and I'm not out with a gun overthrowing, but I will stand up and speak my mind....because that sir, is the patriotic thing to do, the TRUE patriotic action.

 

[DJGTSR 10+ year member]

China is predicted to be the economic power of the world in ~30 years by some estimates....don't know enough about it to make an educated statement beyond that.
As far as the anti-american bullshit going around....read the constitution. You call me un-american again for standing up against and questioning an abusive and currupt government - for not supporting lies....you sir are a moron. The country was built on the foundation that we should overthrow a government if it trys to remove our rights or becomes currupt or too powerful. Ours has done all 3, and I'm not out with a gun overthrowing, but I will stand up and speak my mind....because that sir, is the patriotic thing to do, the TRUE patriotic action.

Amen.

 

[btmorris972 10+ year member]

Amen.

X2

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Its funny how closeminded you really are. This has nothing to do with not being a full American. There are mostly highly educated Americans who are supporting this theory. They include exservicemembers and engineers. Dont make me get you an entire list. This has nothing to do with being an American. I think it does have something to do with living in America though.
Regardless of what you believe, American television is HIGHLY censored. What you see on TV and what you DONT see on TV are controlled by the government. There is a reason you only saw certain photos of the Abu Ghraib abuse. You saw the photos with the men on leashes but you didnt see the film of the dead people and the people beat really bad. Your government blocked those photos from the American public. People only became aware of the true brutality of Abu Ghraib when an Australian news agency did a report.

To sit back and call yourself NOT CLOSEMINDED is so ironic and false it is almost worthy of a chuckle. Its funny how you are prepped to hate and shoot down everybody who speaks out against your government. You quickly label us as un American and as hippies.

Well, you sir are the true unAmerican, and while I may not be a full citizen, I am more American than you will ever be. Because I believe in certain rights that your government is stripping ever so slowly from you. Rather than just sit back and watch, I choose to speak out. I believe that is the American thing to do.

However you dont do that. You have been programmed through your media that to speak out against your government is wrong. I laugh at you.

J

Like I said keep going to all these properganda BS websites and copy and paste and then add some tid bits of what you want to add to it. That is all you do because you cant speak your own mind. It is pretty obvious to me that you will only believe in what you want to believe and try to sway people to believe in your theorys that you again pull from BS sites. So please STFU! As to me being unamerican, that is nothing but your 1 opinion and opinions are like assholes, eveyone has one. So on that note that is pretty much what you have been doing is stating your opinion on what you think happened. The funny thing is I dont know where you were when your so called " Rocket" hit the Pentagon. (WHEN IT WAS A FRIGGAN PLANE) I was watching the news when this went down and was live coverage and there were parts of airplane parts everywhere and were not just parts you could throw around. At least last time I seen a turbine eng. So keep believing in your propaganda BS and say I am Unamerican, when I seen the truth on TV with my own 2 eyes. I do find you very funny though trying to make it seem like our goverment did this or did that. I mean you bringing up shit about JFK and saying that was our goverment too is just absoutley hilarious to me. So keep it up good sir, you are doing nothing but making a complete a-ss out of your self. Then again people do need a good laugh.

Oh yeah, tell PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON I said hi, IDIOT!

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

Like I said keep going to all these properganda BS websites and copy and paste and then add some tid bits of what you want to add to it. That is all you do because you cant speak your own mind. It is pretty obvious to me that you will only believe in what you want to believe and try to sway people to believe in your theorys that you again pull from BS sites. So please STFU! As to me being unamerican, that is nothing but your 1 opinion and opinions are like assholes, eveyone has one. So on that note that is pretty much what you have been doing is stating your opinion on what you think happened. The funny thing is I dont know where you were when your so called " Rocket" hit the Pentagon. (WHEN IT WAS A FRIGGAN PLANE) I was watching the news when this went down and was live coverage and there were parts of airplane parts everywhere and were not just parts you could throw around. At least last time I seen a turbine eng. So keep believing in your propaganda BS and say I am Unamerican, when I seen the truth on TV with my own 2 eyes. I do find you very funny though trying to make it seem like our goverment did this or did that. I mean you bringing up shit about JFK and saying that was our goverment too is just absoutley hilarious to me. So keep it up good sir, you are doing nothing but making a complete a-ss out of your self. Then again people do need a good laugh.
Oh yeah, tell PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON I said hi, IDIOT!

I do agree he is pulling stuff out of his ass for the sake of his elitist "im cooler than you because I think I'm openminded when I'm really just following another trend" arguement.

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

I actually haven't pulled out any facts, or argued a specific point at all. You can point to btmorris and DJ for that.

I just tend to agree with most of the stuff they're suggesting.

And more than agreeing with that, I get exteremly angry when I hear people say I'm not supporting my country, and that I shouldn't question anything because it's bad for the country. That's the core of what I'm angry about.

The government has always been currupt. Clinton's administration had something to do with the oklahoma city bombing, Bush's with 9/11, I don't expect anything to change...but I do expect people to quesion and have an open mind about what could have happened beyond what the news reports.