Eclipse Cd5100/7100 Vs Deh-p880prs

[Hayabusa 10+ year member]

Since no more 13 band EQ and 8V pre-outs Eclipse is back down to earth so I'd go with the Pioneer since it is way cheaper...Unless you can find an older eclipse for dirt cheap like I did //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif...

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

7100 has 8v preout.

 

[Hayabusa 10+ year member]

oh sweet deal. I heard had 5V... Unless you are going to use GPS and stuff Pioneer would still be the most logical choice.

 

[zSnb 10+ year member]

anything more than 5v is going to make absolutely no difference.

 

[ga12r 10+ year member]

pioneer ftl

 

[whitemax 10+ year member]

Both HU's are very nice units.

I paid less than $600 for mine authorized. Should be able to do that with the new unit.

If Pioneer is still using the same DAC's as in my other Pioneer HU, then the Eclipse has actual 24bit DAC's where as the Pioneer has 1bit DAC's that upconvert the signal to 24bit word.

No need to mess with an amp's x-overs with the CD7000/71000.

When you go into the custom mode you have way more in the way of adjusting with the Eclipse units.

I will take Parametric any day of the week.

Can you adjust the individual levels of each speaker/driver with the Pioneer?

 

[XaznKewLguyX 10+ year member]

I got my CD7k from CC for $300 brand new, and i love it. awesome head unit and when you go active its a 11-band PEQ. the screen savers you can download are pretty awesome too.

 

[WaTTsLOk187 10+ year member]

I was going to get a 880 to run active but instead I just paid $400 for a BNIB CD7000. I had noise problems with external processors and didn't feel like messing with pioneers noise problems.

 

[OldOneEye 10+ year member]

I got my CD7k from CC for $300 brand new, and i love it. awesome head unit and when you go active its a 11-band PEQ. the screen savers you can download are pretty awesome too.

That was on dealer accommodation I presume?

Juan

 

[XaznKewLguyX 10+ year member]

That was on dealer accommodation I presume?
Juan

no clue, my friend worked there and brought me a pricelist and it said $$295 for a CD7k so i ordered it. I guess its employee discount or something. 2 spools of kicker wire for $50 or $75 each too. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Minto Took 10+ year member]

When someone is going "active," what does that mean?

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

When someone is going "active," what does that mean?

There is a sticky at the top of this sction that explains it in detail.

 

[Dozy_production 10+ year member]

no clue, my friend worked there and brought me a pricelist and it said $$295 for a CD7k so i ordered it. I guess its employee discount or something. 2 spools of kicker wire for $50 or $75 each too. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

hey there new best friend. You think your friend can spare another cd7k being bought under his name?

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

If Pioneer is still using the same DAC's as in my other Pioneer HU, then the Eclipse has actual 24bit DAC's where as the Pioneer has 1bit DAC's that upconvert the signal to 24bit word.

Pioneer uses TRUE 24 bit BURR-BROWN converters. Not really sure where you're getting the 1 bit thing from. Pioneer is misleading on their site where they give specs for their head units. In fact I don't think a 1 bit converter can upconvert a signal to 24bit. So its no less of a TRUE 24 bit than Eclipse's 24 bit converter.

No need to mess with an amp's x-overs with the CD7000/71000.
When you go into the custom mode you have way more in the way of adjusting with the Eclipse units.

No need to mess with an amp's crossover with a Pioneer deck either. Pioneer's NETWORK mode is every bit as extensive as Eclipse's. NO better, no worse.

I will take Parametric any day of the week.

To each his own on this topic. In a perfect world an EQ wouldn't be needed. But we all know an automobile's interior acoustics are FAR from perfect. If the 7 adjustable bands (NOT 21 like someone else tried to say) you COULD BE just fine as far as adjustability goes. A 16 band graphic EQ may be plenty good to. It's just if you're lucky enough that the frequencies that need to be tamed are one of the bands (or close atleast) on your eq. Even a parametric can come up short in this department. So it's a stale mate between the 2. Now if you had a 16 band parametric compared to a 16 band graphic then the parametric will be the better choice.

Can you adjust the individual levels of each speaker/driver with the Pioneer?

Yes, you sure can in network mode. Not to mention time alignment for each indivual driver as well.

All in all, both great headunits that are equally matched. But Pioneer found a way to do this for a little more than half the price.

 

[whitemax 10+ year member]

Pioneer uses TRUE 24 bit BURR-BROWN converters. Not really sure where you're getting the 1 bit thing from. Pioneer is misleading on their site where they give specs for their head units. In fact I don't think a 1 bit converter can upconvert a signal to 24bit. So its no less of a TRUE 24 bit than Eclipse's 24 bit converter.

I had read about these when I bought my DEH-P8600MP...... I saw that it said 1-bit D/A Converter 8fs/24-bit Burr Brown. I had also noticed other units from other companies also said the same thing. Maybe the sites I visited were mistaken, or I misunderstood... could have happened... just going from what I remember reading.

No need to mess with an amp's crossover with a Pioneer deck either. Pioneer's NETWORK mode is every bit as extensive as Eclipse's. NO better, no worse.

I was referring to the comment made in this post....

Time alignment on the 880 is also fully adjustable. You can also pick specific frequencies for the tweets on an 880prs when in network mode. The 880 has a 16band independent L/R EQ and the Eclipse does not and i will still take a graphic over a parametric just about any day. All of the slope modes you mention on the Eclipse can also be reached with an 880 when used in conjunction with just about any amp. And then the 880 still looks nicer and costs almost half the price. Ill state my point again. Get an 880 and your sound will be on par with a Cd7100. Then you'll have a nice $350 to put towards your install, your speakers, sub stage or anything you want. The end result will be a nicer sounding system. If money isnt a problem to you, forget about both head units and get the H701 combo.

To each his own on this topic. In a perfect world an EQ wouldn't be needed. But we all know an automobile's interior acoustics are FAR from perfect. If the 7 adjustable bands (NOT 21 like someone else tried to say) you COULD BE just fine as far as adjustability goes. A 16 band graphic EQ may be plenty good to. It's just if you're lucky enough that the frequencies that need to be tamed are one of the bands (or close atleast) on your eq. Even a parametric can come up short in this department. So it's a stale mate between the 2. Now if you had a 16 band parametric compared to a 16 band graphic then the parametric will be the better choice.

The CD7000/7100 also has an 11 band PEQ in the 3-way mode.... 5 bands for the tweeters, 5 bands for the midrange drivers, and 1 band for the subwoofer.

All in all, both great headunits that are equally matched. But Pioneer found a way to do this for a little more than half the price.

I also agree that both are great head units, but I do not think they are equally matched. If that were the case I would have picked up the 880. I will say that if you are going authorized the 880 is the better bang for your buck.