Drug dealers

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

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I think people should quit worrying about what others are doing and worry about themselves. Sure a father selling dope is wrong because it puts his family at risk too, but wheres the harm in kids sellin shit on the side for some extra cash? Its what they choose to do, they know what they're getting themselves into. If they get shot, jumped, robbed, arrested...thats their problem, let them deal with it.

just my $0.02

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

its been a while since ive seen the movie, but i dont understand how it shows sympathy for him...to me it just shows the shit that hes gone through in his life...it shows the high points and the low points.

Precisely....someone else said you might feel sympathetic to him after seeing the movie.

I think people should quit worrying about what others are doing and worry about themselves. Sure a father selling dope is wrong because it puts his family at risk too, but wheres the harm in kids sellin shit on the side for some extra cash? Its what they choose to do, they know what they're getting themselves into. If they get shot, jumped, robbed, arrested...thats their problem, let them deal with it.

Except their actions have adverse effects on more people than just themselves, a laissez-faire attitude is counterproductive in this situation.

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

Except their actions have adverse effects on more people than just themselves, a laissez-faire attitude is counterproductive in this situation.

Like who? The user that purchases from them? Same attitude still applies...

Now, I can see the arguement about tax-dollars going into various places that may or may not be directly related the particular 'drug dealer'...but I'm speaking on a small-scale, not people moving mad weight.

I think marijuana should be legal...imagine how much money [the government] could make just off taxing it....

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Like who? The user that purchases from them? Same attitude still applies...

Except it's not a matter of pure supply and demand, drug dealers have the luxury of being able to influence young kids to use when they normally wouldn't. I saw it countless times in high school and even in college to some extent.

I think marijuana should be legal...imagine how much money [the government] could make just off taxing it....

They wouldn't make nearly as much as people think, it's not like alcohol where you need a big brewery to make the product. You could buy a bag legally, plant a seed, and never have to buy it ever again. And you could sell your supply well below the market price if you so desired, and no one would have any hesitation in purchasing it on the black market because it's legal and the quality has, for all intents and purposes, been controlled for.

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

Except it's not a matter of pure supply and demand, drug dealers have the luxury of being able to influence young kids to use when they normally wouldn't. I saw it countless times in high school and even in college to some extent.

So what, we simply just eliminate everything that might be bad for kids? Thats not real life. Ive done some stupid shit in my life, but I turned out allright because I'm not an idiot. The influence will always be there wether it be drugs, theft, cussing, etc.

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

its been a while since ive seen the movie, but i dont understand how it shows sympathy for him

You guys really didn't feel any sympathy for George? I think it made you feel bad for him because his child had one dream in life (to go to california), and after George realized that he had been a screw up his whole life he wanted more than anything to give himself and daughter the best possible life and move to California. The problem was that his wife wouldn't give up any custody so he had to make money. He did a drug deal to get enough to start a new life and fulfill his daughter's dreams, and when he told the guys that were in with him that he was done and this is all he needed to start a new life....they hung their heads because they had set him up and he would no longer get to take his daughter to California for a new life, he would end up never seeing her again. He halucinated her visits but they were never true.

If you honestly did not feel bad for the guy then you, my friend, have some social issues.

Remember, too, that I said drug dealers are wrong no matter what....it is possible to sympathise (sp?) however, even if only for the breif few moments before you go back to using thought over emotion.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

So what, we simply just eliminate everything that might be bad for kids? Thats not real life. Ive done some stupid shit in my life, but I turned out allright because I'm not an idiot. The influence will always be there wether it be drugs, theft, cussing, etc.

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[Sleeklsc 5,000+ posts]

if you knew anything about drug dealers youd have shut your mouth up a long time ago. drug dealers dont make friends with their "clients" they simply just sell them drugs to make their money. the only people they are friends with are their real *****s. the people they were raised with and know. they dont just make friends with someone they just met, it dont work like that.

1st: shut my mouth along time ago..i opended it once when i was drunk.and dam proud of it..

2nd: ok, so once you start selling drugs your not goin to make any friends? yea, ok...

if i meet a guy and he mentions he's any type of drug dealer, i will have no respect for him instantly..it doesnt matter the circumstance(sp)...

i also could give 2 shits if i dont no anything about drug dealing or whatnot...who ****in cares...what knowledge does it take to deal drugs besides being semi street smart...you dont see poeple that make something out of themselves start dealing drugs do you? no....its the losers

 

[g30ffr3y 10+ year member]

They wouldn't make nearly as much as people think, it's not like alcohol where you need a big brewery to make the product. You could buy a bag legally, plant a seed, and never have to buy it ever again. And you could sell your supply well below the market price if you so desired, and no one would have any hesitation in purchasing it on the black market because it's legal and the quality has, for all intents and purposes, been controlled for.

but what if there were no seeds in the bag... or it was

still illegal to grow your own weed... or if you could only

get weed at like a weed bar... and you have to smoke it

all while your there... then they could have like DUI

enforcement on driving... it could work...

i think the government could make a ton of $$$ by legalizing

weed...

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

So how come people dont plant tobacco seeds, to avoid that massive tax?? Do you think you could grow tobacco and sell it below the market price?

Apples and oranges. For one, the refinery process and packaging of the tobacco into paper with filters is not nearly as easy as growing marijuana. Marijuana is called weed for a reason - it's a weed and will grow even if you don't want it to. Germinate the seeds, plant them, give them water/light, prune and dry it. The entire process is pretty simple compared to that of tobacco. Two, the tobacco market is already established, and people have their favorite brands. An attempt to dethrone it via the black market simply isn't feasible. Were marijuana to be legalized, it's market base would be in it's infancy, and the black market could quite easily dominate. With marijuana, a supplier can easily create the exact same product as offered in stores, whereas this can't efficiently be done with tobacco.

but what if there were no seeds in the bag... or it wasstill illegal to grow your own weed... or if you could only

get weed at like a weed bar... and you have to smoke it

all while your there... then they could have like DUI

enforcement on driving... it could work...

C'mon now, let's be reasonable. You can only buy it at a bar and only smoke it there? That would never last. And the seeds issue doesn't matter, you can buy seeds over the internet. Certainly there is potential for profitability, but it doesn't relate to plausibility.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

this is a touchy subject because I used to know a few

 

[Spkrman]

drug dealer = alcohol store owner

in essence, what is the difference? Just because one is illegal and one isn't... who cares?

How about a **** star and a ********** - because its on tape, its perfectly legal. Whats the difference?

Sexy for money... money for drugs (yes alcohol is a drug).... no difference.

 

[themainman 10+ year member]

drug dealer = alcohol store owner
in essence, what is the difference? Just because one is illegal and one isn't... who cares?

How about a **** star and a ********** - because its on tape, its perfectly legal. Whats the difference?

Sexy for money... money for drugs (yes alcohol is a drug).... no difference.

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[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

drug dealer = alcohol store owner
in essence, what is the difference?

There is nothing that prohibits the presence of liquor stores, and they do not degrade their community in the same way the drug dealers do.

Just because one is illegal and one isn't... who cares?

The police for one. Two would be congress and other politicians who enact laws. Three would be the IRS (yes, that's right). Shall I continue........

How about a **** star and a ********** - because its on tape, its perfectly legal. Whats the difference?

*****'s are made in a in a controlled enviornment for a limited amount of time; there are no social ramifications of it (well, atleast none that are obvious to the eye within a neighborhood). Prostitutes stand on street corners and degrade the social integrity and value within the community that they "work" in. That's why brothels are legal in parts of Nevada, there are no social pitfalls to it as there is no society/community within the relative vicinity of the brothel that will be degraded by their presence.

 

[Spkrman]

There is nothing that prohibits the presence of liquor stores, and they do not degrade their community in the same way the drug dealers do.



The police for one. Two would be congress and other politicians who enact laws. Three would be the IRS (yes, that's right). Shall I continue........

*****'s are made in a in a controlled enviornment for a limited amount of time; there are no social ramifications of it (well, atleast none that are obvious to the eye within a neighborhood). Prostitutes stand on street corners and degrade the social integrity and value within the community that they "work" in. That's why brothels are legal in parts of Nevada, there are no social pitfalls to it as there is no society/community within the relative vicinity of the brothel that will be degraded by their presence.

Vegas is one big brothel... you can hit up a call girl anytime you want. Thats expected there though... its just the way Vegas is.

Have you ever been to a neighborhood that has liquor stores on every corner??? You get drunks and drug addicts of all kinds hanging around them. People *do* live right next to these places... and it *does* cause crime. Go into a liqour store in a bad neighborhood... see how many well under 21 kids there are hangin outside beggin you to buy them a 40 or 2. See how many liqour stores JUST DONT CARE and sell to anyone.

Legit stores in the 'burbs don't have this problem nearly as much... because they are in a better neighborhood to start.

THe suburbs don't have the same problems because THEY HAVE MONEY. When you are dirt poor and don't see a way of getting out of it... you either steal, sell drugs, or DO drugs. Get thrown out on the street and see how long you last... or live with rats/roaches for your entire childhood... then try to do well in schools that could care less... see where you end up... Its not JUST the drug dealers... its not JUST the liqour stores... it goes much deeper than that.

You say liqour stores are much better because they are zoned away from houses (not always true btw...)... and drug dealers are worse because they hang out around the houses. Why not put the drug dealers into a legit business place and tax em??? Would that not help? But wait.. thats not the law... so thats how things are... so lets not change em.