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To order a drop-in re-cone assembly e-mail bryan@sundownaudio.com. To reduce back-and-forth e-mails ALWAYS include the following :
1) What you are ordering -- Model, Coil Configuration, Etc.
2) If you already have a basket or not; please check below for any special notes.
3) If you need ANY custom options please specify up front.
4) !!! YOUR ADDRESS AND NAME !!!
5) A picture of what you have goes a long way to be SURE we are talking about the same thing.
6) When you send payment include ALL details of your drop-in on the notes(model, size, coil configuration, options, etc)
IT WILL TAKE, ON AVERAGE, 3-4 weeks for a built item like a drop-in to be completed. It may take longer depending on how busy our build department is and/or if all of the parts are currently in stock -- please keep this in mind. Updates will NOT be sent along the way -- an update will occur when the product is shipped.
You can e-mail us to check on the status; natasha@sundownaudio.com; an exact completion time is not available but we can confirm if it is done, in process, or is in the shipping area.
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There are a few guy out there that can build our drop-ins (OEM style or customized) as they are authorized to buy our parts if you are in a hurry and our lead time is too long -- you must order through them and do all contact / follow-up with them. Doing business with any of the following builders is completely separate from doing business direct with us and their pricing may vary from ours; but I can say we have done business with all of these guys for many years now and we are comfortable with their work. They all have good feedback on the forums as well :
David Moore ("TeamPSI" on CACO) -- Mississippi --
Corey Dean ("SPLaudio" on Forums) -- New York --
David Leib ("FLAstrongman" on CACO) -- Florida --
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WE CANNOT WARRANTY DIY RE-CONE ASSEMBLY ISSUES. If you are not 100% sure about re-coning the driver yourself SEND IT IN to us. We can ONLY stand behind labor that we perform. Manufacturing defects in the kit itself are of course our responsibility but installation is 100% the customer responsibility.
MAKE SURE to check your re-cone BEFORE installing it for complete accuracy. This includes using a DMM to make sure you received the correct voice coil configuration. As this is a DIY process everyone performing a drop-in should have access to a multi-meter. If there is a mistake on the kit we need to know BEFORE you glue it all in place!!! Once the kit is glued into place we will not be be liable for any errors in it's construction. CHECK IT OVER FIRST. If it is not correct we will issue a call tag for it and build you the correct kit for you ASAP.
Also... any CHANGES to a drop-in order must be done in the form of a new order so that ALL of your details are IN WRITING on the payment slip from Paypal. There will be absolutely NO changes to drop-in orders on the phone! All changes & drop-in orders must be in writing.
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This thread over-rides any prior quotes or costs.
These prices are the same for everyone; Team, dealer, customer, etc.
All costs + SH charges.
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KITS DO NOT include shims or glue. White paper trimmed / stacked to spec works perfectly for shimming -- use enough where it is snug but not so tight you can barely get the coil in the gap.
For glue we suggest Loc-Tite 5-minute epoxy with mixing tubes to glue the spider to the frame (MAKE SURE to sand it first) and we suggest Amazing Goop or E6000 for the surround and dust cap (sand frame for surround and rough up the glue surface of the dust cap with sand paper as well). These can be purchased from Lowes or Home Depot very commonly and some Wal-Mart and Craft Stores.
Surface preparation is key for adhesion -- we also suggest cleaning the surround glue surface with rubbing alcohol, ESPECIALLY, on any "new platform" drop-in kits (Mega-Roll Surround or New SPL Surround). This is *critical* for proper adhesion. After you have thoroughly cleaned the surround glue surface make sure to let it FULLY dry before gluing it down.
Most kits DO NOT include the solder tabs that attach to the terminals; these should be RE-USED. If you require new tabs you will need to order a complete terminal to get them.
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The frame price comes with gasket and terminals -- but if you need any plastic spacers those are extra and you must request them.
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MODEL -- RE-CONE Price -- FRAME Price
E8 v.1 and v.2 Kits are DISCONTINUED (9-23-14)
E8 v.3 / v.4 -- $35.00 -- $8 (frame is for v.4 only -- v.3 frames not available)
* D2 / D4 Available
* Specify v.3 or v.4
E-10 v.1 or v.2 -- $40 -- $10
E-12 v.1 or v.2 -- $40 -- $10
E-15 v.1 or v.2 -- $50 -- $10
* D2 / D4 Available
* Specify v.1 or v.2
!!!FOR SA-8 KITS SEE THIS THREAD TO DETERMINE WHAT MODEL YOU HAVE. WE MUST HAVE THIS INFO TO MAKE THE CORRECT KIT!!!
SA-8 v.1 or v1.5 -- $40.00 -- $10.00
* MUST SPECIFY v.1 or v1.5 when ordering !!!
* D2 / D4 available Stock
* CCAW 4-layer D2 or D4 SPL Coils Available No Extra Charge (these are lighter but can still be used daily as the gap is not tighter than stock)
SA-8 v.2 (or v.3) -- $60.00 -- $15.00
* MUST SPECIFY v.2 or v.3 when ordering.
* D2 / D4 available
* CCAW 4-layer D2 or D4 SPL Coils Available No Extra Charge (these are lighter but can still be used daily as the gap is not tighter than stock)
* Extra Spiders Available for $5.00 Extra Each for a MAX of SIX (stock is two); DO NOT order extra spiders for anything but SPL
SD-2 8 -- $45.00 -- $15.00
* D2 or D4
* You CANNOT change the impedance of your SD-2 8" -- you must order the same coil as it originally had; the D2 and D4 gaps are different.
SD-2 10 -- $40.00 -- $15.00
SD-2 12 -- $45.00 -- $18.00
* D2 / D4 available
SD-3 10 -- $50.00 -- $20.00
SD-3 12 -- $60.00 -- $25.00
* D2 / D4 available
* You CANNOT change the impedance of your SD-3 series -- you must order the same coil as it originally had; the D2 and D4 gaps are different.
SA-10 -- $50.00 -- $15.00
SA-12 -- $50.00 -- $18.00
SA-15 -- $60.00 -- $21.00
SA-18 -- $90.00 -- $40.00
* SA-10/12/15 add $20.00 for SPL Coils (D1,D2,D4) -- they are 8-layer flat aluminum
* D2 / D4 available in stock copper
NSv1 12 -- $110.00 -- $25.00
NSv1 15 -- $120.00 -- $30.00
NSv1 18 -- $130.00 -- $40.00
* 3 Layer Spider Pack Stock
* Add $10.00 for double leads
* Z v.3/X Spider Available No Extra Charge (Black Pack)
* Z v.4 Spider Pack Add $10 (Yellow Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* NS v.3 Spider Pack Add $20 (Red Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* D1 / D2 Available
NSv2 12 -- $140.00 -- $25.00
NSv2 15 -- $150.00 -- $30.00
NSv2 18 -- $160.00 -- $40.00
* 3 Layer Spider Pack Stock
* Add $10.00 for double leads
* Z v.3/X Spider Available No Extra Charge (Black Pack)
* Z v.4 Spider Pack Add $10 (Yellow Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* NS v.3 Spider Pack Add $20 (Red Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* D1 / D2 Available
Zv2 12 -- $110.00 -- $25.00
Zv2 15 -- $120.00 -- $30.00
Zv2 18 -- $130.00 -- $40.00
* Copper or Aluminum Coils Available
* Z v.3 Spider Pack Now Standard (5/1/12)
* MUST USE Z v.3 SPACER
* D1 / D2 Available
Z v.3 10" -- $125.00 -- $20.00
Z v.3 12" -- $130.00 -- $25.00
Z v.3 15" -- $135.00 -- $30.00
Z v.3 18" -- $150.00 -- $40.00
* D1 / D2 Available
* Add $10 for Z v.4 Spider Pack (15s and 18s Only)
* NS v.3 Spider Pack Add $20 (Red Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* The 10/12 models use a different coil than the 15/18 models
!!!! IMPORTANT NOTE : YOU MUST USE OUR NEWEST 12-spoke 15" FRAMES TO USE THE Z v.3, v.4, X OR NS v.3 SPIDER PACKS !!!! They are 8 3/8" spiders and require a modified top landing. The other spiders for 10/12 and the 18 are compatible with any 12-spoke / 6-spoke that I am aware of.
Also -- the NS cone will NOT be offered on ANY drivers with a v.3 style spider pack in 15s or 18s. The v.3 spiders (Z v.3 and NS v.3) can exceed the mechanical limits of the NS style cones in these sizes.
1) What you are ordering -- Model, Coil Configuration, Etc.
2) If you already have a basket or not; please check below for any special notes.
3) If you need ANY custom options please specify up front.
4) !!! YOUR ADDRESS AND NAME !!!
5) A picture of what you have goes a long way to be SURE we are talking about the same thing.
6) When you send payment include ALL details of your drop-in on the notes(model, size, coil configuration, options, etc)
IT WILL TAKE, ON AVERAGE, 3-4 weeks for a built item like a drop-in to be completed. It may take longer depending on how busy our build department is and/or if all of the parts are currently in stock -- please keep this in mind. Updates will NOT be sent along the way -- an update will occur when the product is shipped.
You can e-mail us to check on the status; natasha@sundownaudio.com; an exact completion time is not available but we can confirm if it is done, in process, or is in the shipping area.
----------
There are a few guy out there that can build our drop-ins (OEM style or customized) as they are authorized to buy our parts if you are in a hurry and our lead time is too long -- you must order through them and do all contact / follow-up with them. Doing business with any of the following builders is completely separate from doing business direct with us and their pricing may vary from ours; but I can say we have done business with all of these guys for many years now and we are comfortable with their work. They all have good feedback on the forums as well :
David Moore ("TeamPSI" on CACO) -- Mississippi --
Corey Dean ("SPLaudio" on Forums) -- New York --
David Leib ("FLAstrongman" on CACO) -- Florida --
----------
WE CANNOT WARRANTY DIY RE-CONE ASSEMBLY ISSUES. If you are not 100% sure about re-coning the driver yourself SEND IT IN to us. We can ONLY stand behind labor that we perform. Manufacturing defects in the kit itself are of course our responsibility but installation is 100% the customer responsibility.
MAKE SURE to check your re-cone BEFORE installing it for complete accuracy. This includes using a DMM to make sure you received the correct voice coil configuration. As this is a DIY process everyone performing a drop-in should have access to a multi-meter. If there is a mistake on the kit we need to know BEFORE you glue it all in place!!! Once the kit is glued into place we will not be be liable for any errors in it's construction. CHECK IT OVER FIRST. If it is not correct we will issue a call tag for it and build you the correct kit for you ASAP.
Also... any CHANGES to a drop-in order must be done in the form of a new order so that ALL of your details are IN WRITING on the payment slip from Paypal. There will be absolutely NO changes to drop-in orders on the phone! All changes & drop-in orders must be in writing.
----------
This thread over-rides any prior quotes or costs.
These prices are the same for everyone; Team, dealer, customer, etc.
All costs + SH charges.
----------
KITS DO NOT include shims or glue. White paper trimmed / stacked to spec works perfectly for shimming -- use enough where it is snug but not so tight you can barely get the coil in the gap.
For glue we suggest Loc-Tite 5-minute epoxy with mixing tubes to glue the spider to the frame (MAKE SURE to sand it first) and we suggest Amazing Goop or E6000 for the surround and dust cap (sand frame for surround and rough up the glue surface of the dust cap with sand paper as well). These can be purchased from Lowes or Home Depot very commonly and some Wal-Mart and Craft Stores.
Surface preparation is key for adhesion -- we also suggest cleaning the surround glue surface with rubbing alcohol, ESPECIALLY, on any "new platform" drop-in kits (Mega-Roll Surround or New SPL Surround). This is *critical* for proper adhesion. After you have thoroughly cleaned the surround glue surface make sure to let it FULLY dry before gluing it down.
Most kits DO NOT include the solder tabs that attach to the terminals; these should be RE-USED. If you require new tabs you will need to order a complete terminal to get them.
----------
The frame price comes with gasket and terminals -- but if you need any plastic spacers those are extra and you must request them.
----------
MODEL -- RE-CONE Price -- FRAME Price
E8 v.1 and v.2 Kits are DISCONTINUED (9-23-14)
E8 v.3 / v.4 -- $35.00 -- $8 (frame is for v.4 only -- v.3 frames not available)
* D2 / D4 Available
* Specify v.3 or v.4
E-10 v.1 or v.2 -- $40 -- $10
E-12 v.1 or v.2 -- $40 -- $10
E-15 v.1 or v.2 -- $50 -- $10
* D2 / D4 Available
* Specify v.1 or v.2
!!!FOR SA-8 KITS SEE THIS THREAD TO DETERMINE WHAT MODEL YOU HAVE. WE MUST HAVE THIS INFO TO MAKE THE CORRECT KIT!!!
SA-8 v.1 or v1.5 -- $40.00 -- $10.00
* MUST SPECIFY v.1 or v1.5 when ordering !!!
* D2 / D4 available Stock
* CCAW 4-layer D2 or D4 SPL Coils Available No Extra Charge (these are lighter but can still be used daily as the gap is not tighter than stock)
SA-8 v.2 (or v.3) -- $60.00 -- $15.00
* MUST SPECIFY v.2 or v.3 when ordering.
* D2 / D4 available
* CCAW 4-layer D2 or D4 SPL Coils Available No Extra Charge (these are lighter but can still be used daily as the gap is not tighter than stock)
* Extra Spiders Available for $5.00 Extra Each for a MAX of SIX (stock is two); DO NOT order extra spiders for anything but SPL
SD-2 8 -- $45.00 -- $15.00
* D2 or D4
* You CANNOT change the impedance of your SD-2 8" -- you must order the same coil as it originally had; the D2 and D4 gaps are different.
SD-2 10 -- $40.00 -- $15.00
SD-2 12 -- $45.00 -- $18.00
* D2 / D4 available
SD-3 10 -- $50.00 -- $20.00
SD-3 12 -- $60.00 -- $25.00
* D2 / D4 available
* You CANNOT change the impedance of your SD-3 series -- you must order the same coil as it originally had; the D2 and D4 gaps are different.
SA-10 -- $50.00 -- $15.00
SA-12 -- $50.00 -- $18.00
SA-15 -- $60.00 -- $21.00
SA-18 -- $90.00 -- $40.00
* SA-10/12/15 add $20.00 for SPL Coils (D1,D2,D4) -- they are 8-layer flat aluminum
* D2 / D4 available in stock copper
NSv1 12 -- $110.00 -- $25.00
NSv1 15 -- $120.00 -- $30.00
NSv1 18 -- $130.00 -- $40.00
* 3 Layer Spider Pack Stock
* Add $10.00 for double leads
* Z v.3/X Spider Available No Extra Charge (Black Pack)
* Z v.4 Spider Pack Add $10 (Yellow Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* NS v.3 Spider Pack Add $20 (Red Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* D1 / D2 Available
NSv2 12 -- $140.00 -- $25.00
NSv2 15 -- $150.00 -- $30.00
NSv2 18 -- $160.00 -- $40.00
* 3 Layer Spider Pack Stock
* Add $10.00 for double leads
* Z v.3/X Spider Available No Extra Charge (Black Pack)
* Z v.4 Spider Pack Add $10 (Yellow Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* NS v.3 Spider Pack Add $20 (Red Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* D1 / D2 Available
Zv2 12 -- $110.00 -- $25.00
Zv2 15 -- $120.00 -- $30.00
Zv2 18 -- $130.00 -- $40.00
* Copper or Aluminum Coils Available
* Z v.3 Spider Pack Now Standard (5/1/12)
* MUST USE Z v.3 SPACER
* D1 / D2 Available
Z v.3 10" -- $125.00 -- $20.00
Z v.3 12" -- $130.00 -- $25.00
Z v.3 15" -- $135.00 -- $30.00
Z v.3 18" -- $150.00 -- $40.00
* D1 / D2 Available
* Add $10 for Z v.4 Spider Pack (15s and 18s Only)
* NS v.3 Spider Pack Add $20 (Red Pack) for 15s and 18s only
* The 10/12 models use a different coil than the 15/18 models
!!!! IMPORTANT NOTE : YOU MUST USE OUR NEWEST 12-spoke 15" FRAMES TO USE THE Z v.3, v.4, X OR NS v.3 SPIDER PACKS !!!! They are 8 3/8" spiders and require a modified top landing. The other spiders for 10/12 and the 18 are compatible with any 12-spoke / 6-spoke that I am aware of.
Also -- the NS cone will NOT be offered on ANY drivers with a v.3 style spider pack in 15s or 18s. The v.3 spiders (Z v.3 and NS v.3) can exceed the mechanical limits of the NS style cones in these sizes.