do you believe in god?

[Heresy 10+ year member]

I have no problem with people believing in different things. Afterall what those people believe in doesn't affect where I will end up. Some of the Islamic sects however have the belief that they must convert all to islam and those who refuse must be put to death. Religious sects such as these I'm against. All which are peaceful I have no problem with. These sects are dangerous to all people because they end with all sides dieing.

The Catholics had numerous inquisitions and the colonization Africa and Asia by Europeans did amounted to the same thing. All religions have the extremists somewhere in their camp who will kill those who don't agree with them. One of the lesser known chosen duties of al-Qaeda is actually to eliminate those who they believe defile the teachings of Muhammad i.e. other Islamic sects who they see as being deviant. Just a year or so ago one of the leaders from a more underground, none traditional mosque was stalked and then murdered. No one knows by who but it is widely believed the hit was by a member of a more findamentalist mosque.

 

[pw91686 10+ year member]

I guess that would make me reighteous by your point of view...

dude, you are stupid. I said man's reasoning led to sin, not every thought of man is sin, however most of them are.

but you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed man, so don't make dumb comments like that anymore, it's not cool

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

- Albert Einstein

http://www.godwithoutreligion.com/

 

 

 

[mikegett 10+ year member]

im athiest but im sypathetic. i dont think god should be written out of the constitution and i dont think god should be taken out of the national anthem. the country was founded on christian beliefs and thats that, like it or not

I am christian, and our country was not founded on religion. There is a very nice histogram of the constitution. Look up the governments home page. There is no reference to religion. In fact, three of our founders were athiest. You might be suprised as to who. Do you recall a story of one of the founders translating the bible. In reality, he wrote a version that emitted any referance to God. The term, "In God We Trust" was placed on the national currency after the civil war. It was suggest by a Catholic priest that felt that our nation needed to improve its image of slavery.

 

[pw91686 10+ year member]

Its really complicated and different for everyone, obviously. I cant really say that i do, just because of the amount of evidence that questions it that i choose to believe. I find alot of it really hard to believe. So, to make it really short, no.

Did someone make that computer you are typing on right now?

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

dude, you are stupid. I said man's reasoning led to sin, not every thought of man is sin, however most of them are.
but you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed man, so don't make dumb comments like that anymore, it's not cool

Whatever man, believe what you want...

"Reason is the root to all evil"

I like it.

I don't even claim to have answers, I was playing devil's advocate and wanted to see where it would lead. Once thinking turned into a sin, I knew our conversation was doomed.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

I am christian, and our country was not founded on religion. There is a very nice histogram of the constitution. Look up the governments home page. There is no reference to religion. In fact, three of our founders were athiest. You might be suprised as to who. Do you recall a story of one of the founders translating the bible. In reality, he wrote a version that emitted any referance to God. The term, "In God We Trust" was placed on the national currency after the civil war. It was suggest by a Catholic priest that felt that our nation needed to improve its image of slavery.

have you ever looked at the constitution?

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

I am christian, and our country was not founded on religion. There is a very nice histogram of the constitution. Look up the governments home page. There is no reference to religion. In fact, three of our founders were athiest. You might be suprised as to who. Do you recall a story of one of the founders translating the bible. In reality, he wrote a version that emitted any referance to God. The term, "In God We Trust" was placed on the national currency after the civil war. It was suggest by a Catholic priest that felt that our nation needed to improve its image of slavery.

our country was founded based on "christian beliefs"

Rome was founded over seven hundred years prior to Christ. It was Rome that crusified him. Have you ever wandered why there is a curtain behind the pulpit? Originaly, the people were not allowed to talk to God. The priest would literaly seperate himself from the congregation. Supposably, as christ passed the curtain was ripped in half.

i know that the romans persecuted jesus and the early believers.

that curtain was in the jewish temple, not "protestant"

but i mean later on.

where does "roman catholic church" come frome?

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

have you ever looked at the constitution?

apparantly not lol.

 

[mikegett 10+ year member]

Yes I have.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

time to read it again

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

The church system doesn't have anything to do with believing in God. God is independent of any church. You can't blame the church for turning you away from believing in God as the final choice is yours.

Ding ding ding!!! Bingo!

Look, there is no "1 right religion" out of all of them because NONE of them are right. Religion in itself is against God and God is against religion. Religion IS the building and steeple. Religion is the disjoining of the unity of people. Religion is calling non people "them". Religion is the set of DEEDS and steps and hokus pokus that preachers insist you must do to show your faith. Religion is offering presents and praying to statues. Religion is confusion. Religion is cause for arguments, hate, and war. Being "religious" is a very bad thing and the people who trained someone into thinking differently are wrong (and religious). Anything that is outside of God is religion. Yes, I'm saying the building they call "the church" is religion because the reality is that God's people are the church, together -- not the building they sit in to listen to one man (or woman) enlighten the flock with his infinite religious knowledge of God's will based on some translation of the Bible and writings of his elder religious counterparts.

The crappy feeling you get in your gut when you see another evangelist go down in flames, or listen to the overly-religious young man on the street telling people about condemnation, or the things your cousin has to do in church that seem a little "off", or the aunt and uncle who are proud "non-denominational church" regulars who just love shoving themselves down your throat so they can feel better about themselves... it's all religion and that's why it makes you sick, and that's what turns people away from faith -- NOT God.

Look into it for yourself. You can actually find the truth. It's out there. And there are litterally millions of members of The Church around the world, some likely in your town/city (hint: in the phone book you'll find them under: "The Church in "). I've been a slacker for quite a few years and haven't met with the Church in a while, but before that, the meetings I went to were the only times I didn't leave feeling more empty than I did before going in the first place.

Sorry for the long post. Carry on.

 

[Gawd 10+ year member]

you rang?

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

we are the church.

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

you rang?

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