DB-R electronics *****

Also i highly doubt chris told you that they were junk, he has told me quite the opposite. Chris holds the SAE-1200 in a high regard for being a 2 ohm powerhouse and actually putting out more power at 2 ohms than the SAZ-1500. Anyone here can call him and ask him about them and im sure he will praise them.

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He told me the same thing when I inquired about the SAE1200d. He actually also told me that Sundown was the only reliable amp to repair simply because he can buy one cheap, fix it cheap because parts are readily available, and have a fast turn around and get them in and out quick because its what people wants. On top of this CS, he also has a nice business stand point that makes perfect sense.

 
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I saw that the first time you posted it, guess everyone else ignored it haha.. That is an interesting post. But still, i am not believing anything that the OP says. Doesnt sound like he has a clue on what the hell he is doing. There is a chance the amp was **** when he got it, but more than likely it was user/install error, by the sounds/looks of it.

 
An Amp will blow a headunit if you ground the outputs, which means the amp had to be powered on when you tried to hook the sub up. I know this because i have done it and chris fixed it.
My truck was on, didnt know it. Hooked the positive sub wire and the negative hit the heatsink and fried the amp and chris told me it shouldve fried the headunit and i got lucky.

Also i highly doubt chris told you that they were junk, he has told me quite the opposite. Chris holds the SAE-1200 in a high regard for being a 2 ohm powerhouse and actually putting out more power at 2 ohms than the SAZ-1500. Anyone here can call him and ask him about them and im sure he will praise them.

Ronin, you have proved yourself as an untrustworthy seller, an ******* to talk to and that you dont have much knowledge when it comes to car audio. I understand why you got ran off of CACO but i dont udnerstand why your still here when obviously no one cares.

P.S.

U Mad ?

Poast

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k so im not understand what route you should have taken. what is it that you do in order to not fry things... what should you not have done is basically what im saying. you saying that if the truck was off it owuldnt have happen?

 
plus is it mandatory that you hook your subs up before you power teh amp. or power teh amp before hook up subs. if i get zapped that is not oging to be fun

 
From Seller - dB-r Electronics

10/28/2009 12:41 PDT

Yes that is correct. No, nothing else needed, as soon as it arrives I will refund your money. For future reference, the SAE-1200's are the bottom of the barrel sundown amps, while the new v2 SAE-1200D will be much more reliable, still the SAZ line is what I personally would spend my money on. The SAE-1200D=cheap china amp, the SAZ line is top of the line Korean built amps. Just FYI. Though you probably already know this.

From Buyer - Michael Hayes

11/3/2009 18:00 PST

Package was delivered.

From Seller - dB-r Electronics

11/4/2009 09:30 PST

Received the amplifier back here, thanks for including the remote by the way... The amplifier only had 1 small problem, with the input board (the board the RCA's, GAIN, etc are all on), and matter of fact it still worked fine, but had lower than normal output. Upon touching up a few solder connections on the input board all is well and amplifier functions exactly as it should, have been testing it for over 30 minutes now at full volume, have dropped it on the desk a few times checking for intermittent problems and have found none. Issuing refund now anyway, as to resolve this matter with this customer.

 
This is why I started this thread,everything was cool and you can see he admitted there was somethig wrong then he sent this.

dB-r Electronics just sent you money with PayPal.

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Payment details

Amount: $20.00 USD

Transaction Date: Nov 4, 2009

Transaction ID: 5UR92598FG6417021

Subject: $20 refund for shipping costs to return working amplifier...

Message: Please DO NOT buy from us again. I won't go around saying nothing bad about you in public, but I do not wish to do business with you again. This amplifier works fine. It only had a very minor issue. You have put me through hell over this and I do not wish to do business with you again.

I was told the amp was working when I bought it then he says it had a minor issue. I didn't pay for a amp with minor issues.

 
An Amp will blow a headunit if you ground the outputs, which means the amp had to be powered on when you tried to hook the sub up. I know this because i have done it and chris fixed it.
My truck was on, didnt know it. Hooked the positive sub wire and the negative hit the heatsink and fried the amp and chris told me it shouldve fried the headunit and i got lucky.

Also i highly doubt chris told you that they were junk, he has told me quite the opposite. Chris holds the SAE-1200 in a high regard for being a 2 ohm powerhouse and actually putting out more power at 2 ohms than the SAZ-1500. Anyone here can call him and ask him about them and im sure he will praise them.

Ronin, you have proved yourself as an untrustworthy seller, an ******* to talk to and that you dont have much knowledge when it comes to car audio. I understand why you got ran off of CACO but i dont udnerstand why your still here when obviously no one cares.

P.S.

U Mad ?

Poast

Bump

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I didn''t get ran off of CACO,but you did,then you came over here and started crying like a b!tch. How do you know about my install abilities? Your a sperm drinker.

 
This is why I started this thread,everything was cool and you can see he admitted there was somethig wrong then he sent this.

dB-r Electronics just sent you money with PayPal.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Payment details

Amount: $20.00 USD

Transaction Date: Nov 4, 2009

Transaction ID: 5UR92598FG6417021

Subject: $20 refund for shipping costs to return working amplifier...

Message: Please DO NOT buy from us again. I won't go around saying nothing bad about you in public, but I do not wish to do business with you again. This amplifier works fine. It only had a very minor issue. You have put me through hell over this and I do not wish to do business with you again.

I was told the amp was working when I bought it then he says it had a minor issue. I didn't pay for a amp with minor issues.

Well there you go you stupid piece of ****. He accepted the return of the amp after having problems. He paid return shipping. He was cool about, said he WONT SAY ANYTHING IN PUBLIC bad about you. And then you go and make this thread, way to go retard. Made yourself look ridiculous. No one will deal with you if they see this thread and the other one about the sub you sold.

 
you think he was being a dick to you? wow. all he said was dont buy from me again. which you probly could have still bought from him if you would have been nicer to him. but no you fricked it all up. lol he said he wouldnt talk crap about you to public but he didnt even have to. you made yourself look crappier than anything. you need to learn how to talk to people in real life. idk how old you are but you need to be able to talk things out like a man instead of demaning your correct and al that crap. good luck in the future on these forums. not saying your the worst at all but you need to chill sumtimes

 
All the ******** aside.. If the amp was sold as working 100% even if the problem was a 2 minute fix it wasn't paid for to have a 2 minute fix simple as that.. I have to agree with OP on that.. Simple... so if what he said is true then DB-r not appropriate.. other than that.. CARRY on

 
my view on it is you r in the right about everything OTHER THEN YOU R A DICK FOR MAKING THIS THREAD

he should not have sold you a amp with problems

but you sold some one a blown subs with problems

you were pissed when people bashed you for it

then you made it right and r still mad people bash you

so he did the exact same thing as u and u start **** with him?

 
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