Current events discussion

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I just hate the economic argument for illegal immigration. Considering how much cites and legal immigrants pay in taxes at every level for it to be wasted dealing with the illegal immigration problem is just a joke.

Any kind economic benefit illegal immigration may have is still a loss. Better to take the budget hit to tighten our borders than the slow bleed of wasted tax money to "deal" with the problem as we are now.

 

[SlugButter]

I just hate the economic argument for illegal immigration. Considering how much cites and legal immigrants pay in taxes at every level for it to be wasted dealing with the illegal immigration problem is just a joke.

Any kind economic benefit illegal immigration may have is still a loss. Better to take the budget hit to tighten our borders than the slow bleed of wasted tax money to "deal" with the problem as we are now.

the immigrants coming through the border here have money to pay the cartels 5000$ per head just to travel through Mexico. No one rides for free. The cartels are the ones profiting big on our immigration policies. We also don’t really get the immigrants that just want a better life and a good job. We get the immigrants who can already afford to pay the cartels. The poorest people in these countries are stuck there and can’t even think about getting to America.. Most Americans couldn’t afford getting through Mexico without becoming a cartel slave to pay off the debt. It’s funny how benevolent caring liberals somehow screw over the poorest people, even in foreign countries, while spewing their BS about how they are the moral majority.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Oh my. Rob actually tried pulling this shit.

A moment ago

In May of 2018, the inflation-adjusted price of gas averaged $3.62 a gallon.

The average price last month was $3.61 a gallon.

Same price, 4 years later.
Why the constant complaints?

WOW. The actual average was $2.74. We didn't pay today's adjusted prices in 2018 you stupid shyster. By your twisted biased logic the price we pay today should be adjusted 6 years into the future... so what, $7.21 a gallon? You ******* simp.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

When was the last time the U.S. implemented a lockdown before covid?

The Spanish Flu. It wasn't called a lockdown back then.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Just letting you guys know that a lot of illegals have Socials and Driver's Licenses. It's also not the employer's responsibility to investigate every Social Security or Driver's License number. A lot of illegals also pay taxes just like everybody else. What they don't do is file a tax return. That means they don't get a refund and all of that tax money stays in the economy. Our company had over 150 employees and I've seen a lot of shi* in my day. I can probably answer some questions from the employer side if you guys have any. A lot of employers hire illegals unknowingly because their paperwork comes back clean. It happens. Don't be naive.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Just letting you guys know that a lot of illegals have Socials

An illegal immigrant cannot legally obtain a social security card...so if they're paying income tax...that means they're using a someone else's number...which is fraud and a federal felony...

Drivers licenses are qualifications vary from state to state and have no bearing on the irs ability to collect income tax...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The Spanish Flu. It wasn't called a lockdown back then.

That was an actual pandemic with a mortality rate around 10%...and it wasn't a lockdown in the sense as happened with covid...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I feel like the COVID pandemic was planned so that people would have to be locked down so that an easily manipulated by mail voting system could be used to install a President other than Trump. But hey, maybe I am just spitballing here.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

An illegal immigrant cannot legally obtain a social security card...so if they're paying income tax...that means they're using a someone else's number...which is fraud and a federal felony...

Drivers licenses are qualifications vary from state to state and have no bearing on the irs ability to collect income tax...

I never said they legally had a Social Security card. They get Social Security cards and driver's licenses to work for companies. They fill out paperwork just like everybody else. I've had to notify guys that their paperwork was returned because of a bad Social Security Card. I also found out that one of our white employees was working under a dead baby's Social Security number. The parents didn't file a death certificate after their baby died. That leaves the Social Security number active for criminals to use. He was wanted in Michigan for a fatal DUI. I found this stuff out after he was done working for us. Some illegals pay taxes. They never file tax returns. That means that they usually claim five or more dependents on their paperwork. Please don't come sideways at me. I'm just letting you know what I've seen in when mycDad and I had a framing company in Vegas. It was called Robert Dillon Framing INC. You can GOOGLE it.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

That was an actual pandemic with a mortality rate around 10%...and it wasn't a lockdown in the sense as happened with covid...

I said it wasn't called a lockdown.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I never said they legally had a Social Security card. They get Social Security cards and driver's licenses to work for companies. They fill out paperwork just like everybody else. I've had to notify guys that their paperwork was returned because of a bad Social Security Card. I also found out that one of our white employees was working under a dead baby's Social Security number. The parents didn't file a death certificate after their baby died. That leaves the Social Security number active for criminals to use. He was wanted in Michigan for a fatal DUI. I found this stuff out after he was done working for us. Some illegals pay taxes. They never file tax returns. That means that they usually claim five or more dependents on their paperwork. Please don't come sideways at me. I'm just letting you know what I've seen in when mycDad and I had a framing company in Vegas. It was called Robert Dillon Framing INC. You can GOOGLE it.

Using someone else's social security number is a fraud...illegal immigrants don't qualify for a social security number..

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Using someone else's social security number is a fraud...illegal immigrants don't qualify for a social security number..

How many times do I have to say that they still get them. I know it's illegal. The labor board went through our whole company one time and seven guys had the same social security number. I also had a guy who's driver's license picture had his girlfriend in it. I caught that one. The employer just hands in the employees paperwork and that's it. There isn't a book or catalog of stolen or bad Social Security numbers for employers.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That was an actual pandemic with a mortality rate around 10%...and it wasn't a lockdown in the sense as happened with covid...

They don't know the mortality rate of the Spanish flu. I've seen as low as .6% and 10% is the upper range.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/02/politics/us-russian-forces-niger-base/index.html

 

[Old_Slapper]

I guess it was low in 2016 because of Obama. There's a lot of reasons why gas prices are high right now. The Republicans just want to say it's all Biden's fault. They don't understand all the complexities that go into gas prices. They think Biden wakes up and sets the gas prices. Gas prices are high in every Country in the World. No one man is powerful enough to cause that. The same way with inflation. It's easier for people to blame one man for their problems without doing any research.

And it appears you have not done any research.