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[RobGMN Premium Member]

But it's not fraud they are cutting? Just randomly cutting whatever from the budgets?

What evidence have we seen that they are cutting fraud?
Simply chopping a a budget is not fraud.

Did you know that they cut the IRS's Global High Wealth audit unit by 38%?
Hmmm, so now the ultrawealthy can commit tax fraud with a LOT lower chance of getting caught and audited.

The IRS unit that audits billionaires has lost 38% of its employees since January, new data shows - ICIJ

As Donald Trump and Elon Musk take a chainsaw to the federal bureaucracy, the cuts at the IRS may be especially good news for America’s wealthiest taxpayers.

www.icij.org

“These are the agents who give the government the biggest bang for its buck,” Duncan Giles, President of National Treasury Employees Union’s Chapter 49, said of the Global High Wealth unit. “They’re the ones making millions or tens of millions, and in some cases hundreds of millions, in tax adjustments, so that’s less money coming into the treasury.”

Brilliant move.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Blah, Blah, Blah... so tell me where it said convicted of **** in that link you sent me.

Have a grownup read the court documents to you.
Just because you dislike or disagree with fact, does not negate that fact.
Facts don't care about your feelings, your opinions, your beliefs.

Why would I give you details? I never said I was going to give you details. You are just as capable to go do your diligence and see the information yourself.

In other words, YOU CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS WITH ANY FACTS.
You just have your feelings, beliefs, opinions, but no proofs.

The same guy who demands " Show proof, not just your feelings." "Again, show proof and your feelings are not proof."
Ironic.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Have a grownup read the court documents to you.
Just because you dislike or disagree with fact, does not negate that fact.
Facts don't care about your feelings, your opinions, your beliefs.

The burden of proof is on you. See, I went to that link, hit ctrl+f, typed in the word **** and proceeded to read every word in the sentence before and after the word ****, in nine places within that document and NOTHING says he is convicted of ****.

You are the one arguing based on your feelings, opinions and beliefs... I have the FACTS. Now, get your head out of your ***.

In other words, YOU CAN'T SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS WITH ANY FACTS.
You just have your feelings, beliefs, opinions, but no proofs.

The same guy who demands " Show proof, not just your feelings." "Again, show proof and your feelings are not proof."
Ironic.

This little tactic isn't going to work Rob. I am not interested in you arguing for 10 pages after you have denied proof and facts.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

What evidence have we seen that they are cutting fraud?
Simply chopping a a budget is not fraud.

Did you know that they cut the IRS's Global High Wealth audit unit by 38%?
Hmmm, so now the ultrawealthy can commit tax fraud with a LOT lower chance of getting caught and audited.

The IRS unit that audits billionaires has lost 38% of its employees since January, new data shows - ICIJ

As Donald Trump and Elon Musk take a chainsaw to the federal bureaucracy, the cuts at the IRS may be especially good news for America’s wealthiest taxpayers.

www.icij.org

“These are the agents who give the government the biggest bang for its buck,” Duncan Giles, President of National Treasury Employees Union’s Chapter 49, said of the Global High Wealth unit. “They’re the ones making millions or tens of millions, and in some cases hundreds of millions, in tax adjustments, so that’s less money coming into the treasury.”

Brilliant move.

Not a move that I endorse. Nevertheless that's far from proof that DOGE is not cutting fraud, that proof that the GHW unit suffered cuts.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The burden of proof is on you. See, I went to that link, hit ctrl+f, typed in the word **** and proceeded to read every word in the sentence before and after the word ****, in nine places within that document and NOTHING says he is convicted of ****.

He's been convicted in the court of Liberal Opinion.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

He's been convicted in the court of Liberal Opinion.

Sadly, Rob is scouring the internet trying desperately to find a legal document that says Trump is convicted of ****.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

DOJ decided not to pursue AG Ken Paxton.

Justice Department declined to prosecute Texas AG Paxton in final weeks of Biden's term: AP sources

The Justice Department decided in the final weeks of Biden's term not to prosecute Paxton, effectively ending the investigation that cast a shadow over the career of a close ally of President Trump.

apnews.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Sadly, Rob is scouring the internet trying desperately to find a legal document that says Trump is convicted of ****.

He's not gonna have any luck. Remember ABC settled with Trump for millions over Stephanopoulos making the same claim and I'm sure if such a document existed their attorneys would have found it.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The burden of proof is on you. See, I went to that link, hit ctrl+f, typed in the word **** and proceeded to read every word in the sentence before and after the word ****, in nine places within that document and NOTHING says he is convicted of ****.

You got your proof, but your deflection is that the courts, the jury, the judge, the attorneys, are all biased and out to get Trump.
Aside from being a really dumb premise, that doesn't change the decisions and convictions.
Proof, not feelings, is what you should be providing.

You are the one arguing based on your feelings, opinions and beliefs... I have the FACTS. Now, get your head out of your ***.

As some dumbass conspiracy theory, you deny actual court convictions and the documents I share to prove them, but I'M the one arguing based on feelings, opinions and beliefs?
"Fraudulent and set up by the left." is your proof that you think alters the facts?

You think he can't be charged with tax evasion unless they ARREST him?
Goddamn, you are a funny kid with childlike thoughts sometimes.

This little tactic isn't going to work Rob. I am not interested in you arguing for 10 pages after you have denied proof and facts.

"Fraudulent and set up by the left."
"Sorry, crooked Judge and prosecution"
"Sorry, the court said ****** abuse. YOU are claiming predator."
is your idea of "proof and facts".

If you wanted to look like even more of a fool than before, you really stepped up your game.
Your TSS is in high gear.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

He's not gonna have any luck. Remember ABC settled with Trump for millions over Stephanopoulos making the same claim and I'm sure if such a document existed their attorneys would have found it.

How much has the judge paid Trump for saying that Trump indeed ***** her?
How much did Trump sue the judge for?
What higher authority has said the court's opinion was incorrect, and the judge's statement must be retracted?
When did Trump win his appeal of the court decisions?

Provide dates, or even court documents if you can link to them.

Read carefully before saying it's false.

 

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[ThxOne Premium Member]

You got your proof, but your deflection is that the courts, the jury, the judge, the attorneys, are all biased and out to get Trump.
Aside from being a really dumb premise, that doesn't change the decisions and convictions.
Proof, not feelings, is what you should be providing.

There is no proof in the document you linked. The proof would be it saying "Convicted of ****". It does not say that anywhere which means you provided NO PROOF. You want it so bad you will sit there and lie to yourself and the world that you see a conviction for **** when there is none. Go get some help man.

If you wanted to look like even more of a fool than before, you really stepped up your game.
Your TSS is in high gear.

You are the fool. Show us all the conviction for ****.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

There is no proof in the document you linked. The proof would be it saying "Convicted of ****". It does not say that anywhere which means you provided NO PROOF. You want it so bad you will sit there and lie to yourself and the world that you see a conviction for **** when there is none. Go get some help man.

Your denial doesn't change the facts kid, except maybe in your simplistic mind.
Your feelings, opinions, beliefs ("Fraudulent and set up by the left." "Sorry, crooked Judge and prosecution" "Sorry, the court said ****** abuse. YOU are claiming predator."), don't matter a whit either.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-dis-crt-sd-new-yor/114642632.html

You are the fool. Show us all the conviction for ****.

View attachment 64394

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-dis-crt-sd-new-yor/114642632.html

Give us your proof that this document is not a real representation of the hearing documentation.
Not your feelings. Not your belief. Not your opinion.
PROOF.

 

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