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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Cool story.
Now, tell me how I left any context out of the COMPLETE screenshot of the post he put on his shitty site.
You brought up the "missing context" SPECIFICALLY in response to a post I made. A post that included his message, and a factual reference to his actions.

So even the third time when I tell you the screenshot has nothing to do with the context I am speaking of, you still got confused? Really? I wasn't kidding when I said the problem was you Rob.

It was not a coincidence that you decided to make the claim when you did.

Claim huh? Pretty sure I made a factual statement.

Be a man, and support your words. Stop backpedaling and pretending you just decided to post a random thought.

You of all people shouldn't be instructing anyone to be a man.

Boy, that argument is compelling and rich.
"My client is innocent! I rest my case."

I know you THINK everything is an argument but I am just laying down facts today Rob. Sorry, we don't need your input.

You'd have made a great attorney. If the court system was compromised of 2nd graders.

They say greatness recognizes greatness... we see yours stopped in grade number two.

"Aweeee"? WTF is "Aweeee"?
Did you get triggered by failing once again to prove your claims?

Triggered. Trump is where I voted him. No need for me to be triggered.

Every POTUS shakes hands with world leaders.
If that's what you consider "cozying up", it might explain your confusion about "being told" versus "discussing".
You're not very bright.

Except when Trump does it right? Then he is being controlled by his masters because he is a Republican out to give America to Russia. TSC.

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

It's March 6th for ***** sake. 3 Months and you clowns think he is imploding the country. You people make me laugh. I don't know if I want to kick dust on you people when I walk by or pick you up by your toes and flick you in the noses.

It's been a month and a half. And maybe you haven't been paying attention, but Dementia Don and Musk are dismantling things that they don't understand. It makes me laugh that there are people who are so horribly uninformed despite acting as though they are knowledgeable because the handlers are telling them what they want to hear.

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

I'm not defending Trump. I'm "defending" supply side economic policies. Trump is enacting tariffs, which is the exact opposite of supply-side. As I said you have to let go of your obsession with Trump.

Tariffs are a tax. You welcome to call it a cost if you want, but everybody else calls it a tax. Google says it's a tax. I didn't check Wikipedia, but I'd bet it says tariffs are taxes too. Economists refer to tariffs as taxes. When the gov't collects money on a transaction, that's a tax. I'm not sure why you think tariffs aren't taxes.

So it's bad for the economy if Trump enacts tariffs and prices go up, but it's good if Trump increases corporate tax rates and prices go up? What if instead of a tariff, we went European with a VAT?

You totally miss characterized what happened under Reagan. In addition to tax cuts there were massive spending increases.

You also miss characterized the Clinton economy. The Clinton economy boomed because of the tech boom, NAFTA, GATT, the end of cold war and sustained low energy prices.

Musk is giving himself billions of dollars? I think you should expose this theft. CNN would be happy to report on that.

Trump is the president. These are his actions. So bizarre to see MAGA folks act like he shouldn't be blamed for his own dunderheaded actions.

Ok, so we reduced tariffs and increased free trade agreements during the Clinton administration. One of two things happen here. Companies reduce product prices, increase employee compensation, or increase profits (which they THEN pay taxes on). Much different than simply cutting income taxes.

But I guess this insistence on calling tariffs a tax.....would mean that you agree that Trump is screwing over middle America by increasing their taxes significantly through these tariffs. I mean...how else could you explain it?

Yes....I'm mischaracterizing things.....says the guy who running a full court press....desperately trying (and failing) to make excuses for the current clown administration.

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

Or invest in expanding operations, especially if tariffs bring manufacturing back to the US.

Get it through your skull....there are tons of things that will never be produced in the United States due to cost restraints. Blanket tariffs on these products are idiotic. Just a big TAX INCREASE (your definition of tariffs) on regular Americans for no reason other than the fact that we have really stupid people running the country now.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So even the third time when I tell you the screenshot has nothing to do with the context I am speaking of, you still got confused? Really? I wasn't kidding when I said the problem was you Rob.

Yes. We get it. PURELY a coincidence that you claim I leave out context, right after I post a screenshot of Trump's post form his shitty site.
Just a totally random thought you wanted to share, in no way linked to what I posted.

Damn, you must think everyone else is as dimwitted as you are, and believes that shit. Laughable.

Claim huh? Pretty sure I made a factual statement.

Yeah, CLAIM.

You of all people shouldn't be instructing anyone to be a man.

What's it take in your eyes to be a man? Hitting women? Is that why you think you are a man?

I know you THINK everything is an argument but I am just laying down facts today Rob. Sorry, we don't need your input.

Until Trump gets it abolished, free speech is protected by the COTUS. I'll post as I wish.

They say greatness recognizes greatness... we see yours stopped in grade number two.

Says the guy who thinks that "Bullshit, he didn't do it!" is a strong defense, and proves Trump's innocence.
What next "Stop being mean to Trump, or my dad will beat up YOUR dad!" ?

Triggered. Trump is where I voted him. No need for me to be triggered.

And yet you have a freakout every time you see proof that he is a piece of shit.
Triggered Karen Snowflake.

Except when Trump does it right? Then he is being controlled by his masters because he is a Republican out to give America to Russia. TSC.

Does WHAT right? Bow down to your other hero Putin?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It's been a month and a half. And maybe you haven't been paying attention, but Dementia Don and Musk are dismantling things that they don't understand. It makes me laugh that there are people who are so horribly uninformed despite acting as though they are knowledgeable because the handlers are telling them what they want to hear.

Again he has an entire government of people that have been there for decades upon decades to advise him of what they are touching. Act like you have a brain.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yes. We get it. PURELY a coincidence that you claim I leave out context, right after I post a screenshot of Trump's post form his shitty site.
Just a totally random thought you wanted to share, in no way linked to what I posted.

It was after you posted your little smart *** comments. That's 4 times you have had to have it explained to you. Are you ******* 6 years old or something????

Damn, you must think everyone else is as dimwitted as you are, and believes that shit. Laughable.

You are laughable.

Yeah, CLAIM.

What's it take in your eyes to be a man? Hitting women? Is that why you think you are a man?

Not being you with your lack of genitals and a woman's brain. We covered this.

Until Trump gets it abolished, free speech is protected by the COTUS. I'll post as I wish.

I am sure that is his goal as an American... to abolish all that it is to be an American. Do you jack ***** hear the shit the dribbles out of your faces???

Says the guy who thinks that "Bullshit, he didn't do it!" is a strong defense, and proves Trump's innocence.
What next "Stop being mean to Trump, or my dad will beat up YOUR dad!" ?

Maybe if your entire life wasn't dedicated to the hatred of one man you could open your eyes and move on. Being envious of Trump because he has reached levels of success you will never reach in your life is not his fault, that is on you and your lack of motivation or belief in yourself. It's easier for you to hate him though. Being all the things you wanted to be then running as a Republican. LOL. TSC.

And yet you have a freakout every time you see proof that he is a piece of shit.
Triggered Karen Snowflake.

You haven't seen me freak out. Just because you hate him does not mean what you present as proof means jack shit.

Does WHAT right? Bow down to your other hero Putin?

You lefties are probably the most un-American fuckers in America.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Trump is the president. These are his actions. So bizarre to see MAGA folks act like he shouldn't be blamed for his own dunderheaded actions.

Ok, so we reduced tariffs and increased free trade agreements during the Clinton administration. One of two things happen here. Companies reduce product prices, increase employee compensation, or increase profits (which they THEN pay taxes on). Much different than simply cutting income taxes.

But I guess this insistence on calling tariffs a tax.....would mean that you agree that Trump is screwing over middle America by increasing their taxes significantly through these tariffs. I mean...how else could you explain it?

Yes....I'm mischaracterizing things.....says the guy who running a full court press....desperately trying (and failing) to make excuses for the current clown administration.

Tariffs bring industry back to the US...it's like a national security thing. Such as AI race, whoever wins AI wins world, US vs China, tariffs and good deals are bringing back Taiwan chip company into U.S., which guarantees we can maintain supply, unlike if China takes Taiwan. Tariffs force other nations to build industry back in the U.S.

But none of it really matters, as AI is here to replace you then exterminate you once enough people have been replaced, enough robots do enough jobs to run earth without needing hardly any people to do so.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

"The President said the threat of nuclear weapons is immediate, warning: "It could happen tomorrow.""

Trump says 'monster' nukes could be 'end of world' in stark war warning

DONALD Trump has warned “monster” nuclear weapons could “end the world” as he sounded the alarm over atomic armageddon. The President issued the stark warning in a TV interv…

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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

"The President said the threat of nuclear weapons is immediate, warning: "It could happen tomorrow.""

Trump says 'monster' nukes could be 'end of world' in stark war warning

DONALD Trump has warned “monster” nuclear weapons could “end the world” as he sounded the alarm over atomic armageddon. The President issued the stark warning in a TV interv…

www.the-sun.com

Russia issues chilling WW3 warning vowing to 'fertilise soil with British blood'

A leading pro-Putin politician has mocked Sir Keir Starmer for seeking to be a “cool British prime minister” by considering sending troops to Ukraine as World War 3 tensions rise

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

Again he has an entire government of people that have been there for decades upon decades to advise him of what they are touching. Act like you have a brain.

lol....he's firing the experienced people in these agencies and putting inexperienced shills in place. And when did Musk and his tweeners gain these decades of experience before purging agencies of employees. Sad to see people (Trumpers) so deep down the rabbit hole of propaganda....that they turn off the few brain cells they have remaining.

Tariffs bring industry back to the US...it's like a national security thing. Such as AI race, whoever wins AI wins world, US vs China, tariffs and good deals are bringing back Taiwan chip company into U.S., which guarantees we can maintain supply, unlike if China takes Taiwan. Tariffs force other nations to build industry back in the U.S.

But none of it really matters, as AI is here to replace you then exterminate you once enough people have been replaced, enough robots do enough jobs to run earth without needing hardly any people to do so.

I understand the argument.....but it seems like bullshit to me. Trump is waffling back and forth on tariffs....setting them.....and then pulling off.....causing havoc for manufacturers trying to source materials. It's far more likely that Trump simply likes tariffs because he can implement them himself.....and can use them to punish countries for entirely petty reasons. The tariffs on Canada, for example, don't make any sense no matter how you slice it. It's just a dementia riddled clown pulling levels because he can.

But let's pretend that the tariffs truly are meant to bring manufacturing back to the United States. Doesn't change the fact (as I've repeatedly stated) that there are tons of lower quality items that will NEVER be manufactured in this country. Too cost restrictive to do it.....and quite obviously.....we don't even have the population to support manufacturing EVERYTHING within our own borders. So why are we putting blanket tariffs into effect? As far as I know.....every president in recent history has imposed tariffs on certain items. If you're looking to bring microchip manufacturing to the U.S......you can target those items for tariffs. Not that this is a great argument either...considering that Trump shut down the CHIPS Act.

People need to stop acting like this guy is playing 4D chess. He's playing connect four and only has three remaining piece because he ate the rest.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

Tariffs bring industry back to the US...it's like a national security thing. Such as AI race, whoever wins AI wins world, US vs China, tariffs and good deals are bringing back Taiwan chip company into U.S., which guarantees we can maintain supply, unlike if China takes Taiwan. Tariffs force other nations to build industry back in the U.S.

But none of it really matters, as AI is here to replace you then exterminate you once enough people have been replaced, enough robots do enough jobs to run earth without needing hardly any people to do so.

Musk mentioned at some point were going to have universe based income with ai taking over. Hopefully when I’m old I can have a robo exoskeleton and care giver so it can sip my ***.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

lol....he's firing the experienced people in these agencies and putting inexperienced shills in place. And when did Musk and his tweeners gain these decades of experience before purging agencies of employees. Sad to see people (Trumpers) so deep down the rabbit hole of propaganda....that they turn off the few brain cells they have remaining.

Again, talking points from the liberal media. "Shills" really, I have heard that a dozen times today.

I understand the argument.....but it seems like bullshit to me. Trump is waffling back and forth on tariffs....setting them.....and then pulling off.....causing havoc for manufacturers trying to source materials. It's far more likely that Trump simply likes tariffs because he can implement them himself.....and can use them to punish countries for entirely petty reasons. The tariffs on Canada, for example, don't make any sense no matter how you slice it. It's just a dementia riddled clown pulling levels because he can.

All this chaos in a matter of days to weeks. Oh my, what shall we do!?!?!?!

Petty reasons huh? Mexico and Canada specifically... They are being tariffed first and foremost for lack of securing their borders allowing illegal immigrants and drugs to enter America. There is nothing petty about it.

But let's pretend that the tariffs truly are meant to bring manufacturing back to the United States. Doesn't change the fact (as I've repeatedly stated) that there are tons of lower quality items that will NEVER be manufactured in this country. Too cost restrictive to do it.....and quite obviously.....we don't even have the population to support manufacturing EVERYTHING within our own borders. So why are we putting blanket tariffs into effect? As far as I know.....every president in recent history has imposed tariffs on certain items. If you're looking to bring microchip manufacturing to the U.S......you can target those items for tariffs. Not that this is a great argument either...considering that Trump shut down the CHIPS Act.

See my above post. Anything after those reasons is secondary.

People need to stop acting like this guy is playing 4D chess. He's playing connect four and only has three remaining piece because he ate the rest.

People need to stop being so ******* disrespectful. None of you whiny, complaining TSC's could do the job of President but you want to cry about what he is doing. He was voted for by the majority. **** it up just like we did with sleepy Joe.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Trump is the president. These are his actions. So bizarre to see MAGA folks act like he shouldn't be blamed for his own dunderheaded actions.

Ok, so we reduced tariffs and increased free trade agreements during the Clinton administration. One of two things happen here. Companies reduce product prices, increase employee compensation, or increase profits (which they THEN pay taxes on). Much different than simply cutting income taxes.

But I guess this insistence on calling tariffs a tax.....would mean that you agree that Trump is screwing over middle America by increasing their taxes significantly through these tariffs. I mean...how else could you explain it?

Yes....I'm mischaracterizing things.....says the guy who running a full court press....desperately trying (and failing) to make excuses for the current clown administration.

No it's not much different than simply cutting income taxes (or corporate taxes), when you have class of people that basically own everything. It doesn't matter how you tax them, they'll find a way to pass the taxes down. It's always been this way. This is why even communist countries are really oligarchies.

No it doesn't mean I agree Trump is screwing over middle America. I support higher taxes/increased tax revenue. I want what's best for America and the middle class are the ones who generally bear the brunt.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Get it through your skull....there are tons of things that will never be produced in the United States due to cost restraints. Blanket tariffs on these products are idiotic. Just a big TAX INCREASE (your definition of tariffs) on regular Americans for no reason other than the fact that we have really stupid people running the country now.

Tariffs being taxes is not my definition, it's the definition.

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