Current events discussion

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You mean you don't have anything valid to show. As usual.

Oh I actually do but I have learned that over these years conversations with you aren't really conversations. They are more a platform for you to spew your biased ignorance and have given you a place to bash people who don't share your political views.

No matter the conversation with you Rob, you are going to argue, point fingers or COMPLETELY disregard an opposing view or opinion.

Deny, deny, deny.

Blame, Blame, Blame.

Nope. New Jersey. I have a piece of the wall in my office. A tactile reminder of the past, but also the present.

I already know you were in New Jersey.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Oh I actually do but I have learned that over these years conversations with you aren't really conversations. They are more a platform for you to spew your biased ignorance and have given you a place to bash people who don't share your political views.

You repeat that story ("Oh I actually do") over and over, but I bet it would take me minutes to find ten examples of proofs I asked you multiple times to provide, and you didn't. But later claimed you did.

This is the Trump being Trump thread. If discussing Trump being Trump is of no interest to you, no one is forcing you to participate.

No matter the conversation with you Rob, you are going to argue, point fingers or COMPLETELY disregard an opposing view or opinion.

Wash, rinse, repeat. Opinions are not relevant in discussion or debate about reality. They simply aren't.
You can share you beliefs, opinions, feelings, all day long. But it's unreasonable that you expect (nay, DEMAND) those be accepted as fact when they are so easily proved to be inaccurate, or even outright lies.

Blame, Blame, Blame.

If it's factually correct, what's wrong with it?

I already know you were in New Jersey.

You asked where I was when the wall came down

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

""The point was to create heavily slanted AI engines that repeat the CIA [Central Intelligence Agency] narratives that were a large part of the emphasis of that effort combined with extreme censorship of anybody who dared to tell the truth," Adams said. "So, the censorship of alternative or independent media was combined with the massive funding through USAID of radical left-wing globalist narratives in order to affect the common crawl of Internet content that's used to train AI engines.""

Mike Adams: USAID funds allegedly used to train AI models to spew PROPAGANDA – NaturalNews.com

The Health Ranger Mike Adams claims that the U.S. Agency for International Development funded a massive propaganda campaign starting in 2023, involving tens of billions of dollars and controlling nearly 4,300 media outlets and over 9,000 journalists worldwide. The campaign allegedly pushed...

www.naturalnews.com

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Oh I actually do but I have learned that over these years conversations with you aren't really conversations. They are more a platform for you to spew your biased ignorance and have given you a place to bash people who don't share your political views.

No matter the conversation with you Rob, you are going to argue, point fingers or COMPLETELY disregard an opposing view or opinion.

And you could easily get him going 10 pages strong so he can "prove" he's worth engaging with...probably with a database and couple of graphs thrown in

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

In all fairness it was the Biden Administration that wiped out the chickens because of Bird Flu.

Hmmmm, I think it was made clear here in the past that the POTUS in office is responsible for what happens while they are in office.

Remember when post-Trump-recession inflation that affected the entire world was endlessly blamed on Biden?
Remember when COVID itself was blamed on Biden?
Remember when Project Warp Speed was blamed on Biden once the vaccine that the right-wing hated got introduced?
Remember Biden getting blamed for the deaths that happened from a pandemic that was in swing for a year when he took office?
Remember Biden got blamed for not doing ENOUGH about oil prices, but then got accused of crime when he sold off SPR stock in an effort to increase supply?

The avian flu issue exploded in 2022. Trump knew this, because he is an expert on everything.
A tariff that Trump enacted has helped push coffee prices to an all-time high.
Wheat prices that had been on a downward trend reversed on the day of his election.

Yet, he promised lower grocery prices from day one.
Didn't he?
If Trump promises something he can't deliver and then fails to deliver, it's BIDEN'S fault?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

""The point was to create heavily slanted AI engines that repeat the CIA [Central Intelligence Agency] narratives that were a large part of the emphasis of that effort combined with extreme censorship of anybody who dared to tell the truth," Adams said. "So, the censorship of alternative or independent media was combined with the massive funding through USAID of radical left-wing globalist narratives in order to affect the common crawl of Internet content that's used to train AI engines.""

Mike Adams: USAID funds allegedly used to train AI models to spew PROPAGANDA – NaturalNews.com

The Health Ranger Mike Adams claims that the U.S. Agency for International Development funded a massive propaganda campaign starting in 2023, involving tens of billions of dollars and controlling nearly 4,300 media outlets and over 9,000 journalists worldwide. The campaign allegedly pushed...

www.naturalnews.com

Given Mike's history, who is to say HE is not part of a conspiracy to spread false narratives about false narratives?
A quick look at Wiki gives you this:

"Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a far-right, anti-vaccination conspiracy theory and fake news website known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience, disinformation, and far-right extremism."

"In May 2020, Facebook banned Natural News content from its platform after discovering that the site was boosting its popularity using content farms in North Macedonia and the Philippines,"

"The website sells various dietary supplements, promotes alternative medicine and climate change denial, makes tendentious nutrition and health claims,[12] disseminates fake news,[20] and espouses various conspiracy theories and pro-Donald Trump propaganda."

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You repeat that story ("Oh I actually do") over and over, but I bet it would take me minutes to find ten examples of proofs I asked you multiple times to provide, and you didn't. But later claimed you did.

Who cares? I don't care to hear you say the same shit day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.

This is the Trump being Trump thread. If discussing Trump being Trump is of no interest to you, no one is forcing you to participate.

There is nothing wrong with discussing anything. That is not what you do though. You think you are right about everything, no matter the topic and for whatever sick, twisted reason you will then launch off on a 10 page rant beating your opinions into everyone as you insult them.

Wash, rinse, repeat. Opinions are not relevant in discussion or debate about reality. They simply aren't.
You can share you beliefs, opinions, feelings, all day long. But it's unreasonable that you expect (nay, DEMAND) those be accepted as fact when they are so easily proved to be inaccurate, or even outright lies.

That's your ******* problem right there. "Opinions are not relevant". You are going in with the mentality that you don't care what people have to say. Demand proof and facts but you don't care what they post.

If it's factually correct, what's wrong with it?

How many times have you been factually WRONG on this forum?

You asked where I was when the wall came down

Yes, I knew you were in NJ.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Who cares? I don't care to hear you say the same shit day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.

And yet you come back to this (and these) threads, without fail.
If you hate it so much, can you explain WHY you subject yourself to it?

There is nothing wrong with discussing anything. That is not what you do though. You think you are right about everything, no matter the topic and for whatever sick, twisted reason you will then launch off on a 10 page rant beating your opinions into everyone as you insult them.

Some people prefer monosyllabic, three-word "conversations". Maybe it's all their brain can handle. Maybe they lose interest quickly. Maybe they have very little to offer to the discussion.
I'm a more in-depth kind of guy, and can hold a long conversation about the fine details of things.

That's your ******* problem right there. "Opinions are not relevant". You are going in with the mentality that you don't care what people have to say. Demand proof and facts but you don't care what they post.

In discussions of facts, opinions AREN'T relevant. You can opine for 1,000 hours straight that water is H2O2, but it'll never change the fact that water is H2O. You can believe all you want that the sun appears to "rise" in the west (because for all your life you thought your house faced west), but it doesn't change the facts.

The only argument/debate/discussion over an opinion (belief, "feeling") comes in whether that opinion is provable and verifiable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: NO ONE in their right mind is going to debate your personal opinion, that no one could ever disprove.
No one is going to argue that your choice of beef over chicken tasting better is "wrong".

However, if you want to claim your belief that chicken is generally higher in fat and calories than beef, now you are talking something that can be proved or disproved with facts and evidence.

See the difference?

We're not arguing/debating/discussing things here that are impossible to prove or disprove. You express opinions that CAN be proved or disproved, and then get upset when they are.

How many times have you been factually WRONG on this forum?

Good question. How many?

Yes, I knew you were in NJ.

OK?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

And yet you come back to this (and these) threads, without fail.
If you hate it so much, can you explain WHY you subject yourself to it?

Explain how you doing your routine day in and day out means that I hate it here.

Some people prefer monosyllabic, three-word "conversations". Maybe it's all their brain can handle. Maybe they lose interest quickly. Maybe they have very little to offer to the discussion.
I'm a more in-depth kind of guy, and can hold a long conversation about the fine details of things.

You aren't in-depth about anything. You hate Trump and if anyone speaks in favor of his actions or him you lash out. You have been crying about how much you dislike him since you joined the forum. WE ALL GET IT.

In discussions of facts, opinions AREN'T relevant. You can opine for 1,000 hours straight that water is H2O2, but it'll never change the fact that water is H2O. You can believe all you want that the sun appears to "rise" in the west (because for all your life you thought your house faced west), but it doesn't change the facts.

The only argument/debate/discussion over an opinion (belief, "feeling") comes in whether that opinion is provable and verifiable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: NO ONE in their right mind is going to debate your personal opinion, that no one could ever disprove.
No one is going to argue that your choice of beef over chicken tasting better is "wrong".

However, if you want to claim your belief that chicken is generally higher in fat and calories than beef, now you are talking something that can be proved or disproved with facts and evidence.

See the difference?

We're not arguing/debating/discussing things here that are impossible to prove or disprove. You express opinions that CAN be proved or disproved, and then get upset when they are.

Show any of us on this website why YOU dictate that we will only discuss FACTS in this thread. I have told you before, OPINIONS DO NOT HAVE TO BE PROVED.

noun
plural noun: opinions

1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Good question. How many?

Answer the question smart ***.

OK?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Hmmmm, I think it was made clear here in the past that the POTUS in office is responsible for what happens while they are in office.

Remember when post-Trump-recession inflation that affected the entire world was endlessly blamed on Biden?
Remember when COVID itself was blamed on Biden?
Remember when Project Warp Speed was blamed on Biden once the vaccine that the right-wing hated got introduced?
Remember Biden getting blamed for the deaths that happened from a pandemic that was in swing for a year when he took office?
Remember Biden got blamed for not doing ENOUGH about oil prices, but then got accused of crime when he sold off SPR stock in an effort to increase supply?

The avian flu issue exploded in 2022. Trump knew this, because he is an expert on everything.
A tariff that Trump enacted has helped push coffee prices to an all-time high.
Wheat prices that had been on a downward trend reversed on the day of his election.

Yet, he promised lower grocery prices from day one.
Didn't he?
If Trump promises something he can't deliver and then fails to deliver, it's BIDEN'S fault?


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I've never held the POTUS responsible for things outside their control. I don't blame Biden for the spike in Bird Flu either. Furthermore, I've stated numerous times I don't hold Biden accountable for anything that happened in the last half of his Presidency since it's clear he was suffering the effects of dementia.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Something, something, censorship.
Something, something, cancel culture.
Something, something, hypocrisy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Explain how you doing your routine day in and day out means that I hate it here.

Your constant complaining about what goes on in this thread indicates that you hated here. If you didn't, you wouldn't be complaining about it.

But since you do, wouldn't it make sense to stay away from here?

You aren't in-depth about anything. You hate Trump and if anyone speaks in favor of his actions or him you lash out. You have been crying about how much you dislike him since you joined the forum. WE ALL GET IT.

And? Look at the name of the thread. Do you not understand what it means?

Show any of us on this website why YOU dictate that we will only discuss FACTS in this thread. I have told you before, OPINIONS DO NOT HAVE TO BE PROVED.

Show any of us on this website why you think your opinion that contradicts fact must be accepted as true and accurate, and no one can call out inaccuracies. What are you doing scratch your head

If your opinion contradicts fact, I'll never have a problem pointing out that your opinion is wrong.

noun
plural noun: opinions

1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Answer the question smart ***.

That's a definition, not a question.
In fact, you haven't asked any questions in this post. You made statements and demands.

Ask a question if you are going to demand your question be answered.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Your constant complaining about what goes on in this thread indicates that you hated here. If you didn't, you wouldn't be complaining about it.

Hated here? Do you mean hate it here?

Also, stop assuming. You don't speak for me. I don't complain about it here, I ***** about YOU. YOU are not this thread you arrogant *******.

But since you do, wouldn't it make sense to stay away from here?

Why don't you go ***** about Trump somewhere else?

And? Look at the name of the thread. Do you not understand what it means?

I know, that's all a liberal like you needs to see, the same trigger name written TWICE!

Show any of us on this website why you think your opinion that contradicts fact must be accepted as true and accurate, and no one can call out inaccuracies. What are you doing scratch your head

Show us where it is written that we need to answer to you about ANYTHING.

If your opinion contradicts fact, I'll never have a problem pointing out that your opinion is wrong.

Fact, you are here just to ***** about Trump.

That's a definition, not a question.

No shit.

In fact, you haven't asked any questions in this post. You made statements and demands.

Like I said, you don't pay attention to anything that doesn't allow you to talk trash. I have asked many questions in this thread alone.

Ask a question if you are going to demand your question be answered.

Not all questions require a response.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Hated here? Do you mean hate it here?

"hated it here"

Also, stop assuming. You don't speak for me. I don't complain about it here, I ***** about YOU. YOU are not this thread you arrogant *******.

You are complaining that I post about Trump being Trump in a Trump being Trump thread.
Go over to the Trump is God thread if you want to hear about how Trump is your god.
It's a real simple concept.

Why don't you go ***** about Trump somewhere else?

This is the Trump being Trump thread.
How many times do I have to tell you the title or explain to you what the thread is?
If you don't like hearing about Trump and a Trump thread, then go to a different thread that is not titled "Trump being Trump".

I know, that's all a liberal like you needs to see, the same trigger name written TWICE!

Why were you expecting to see things other than Trump being Trump in a thread titled Trump being Trump?
Did you get confused, and think it's the "Trump being Mother Theresa" thread? Or maybe the "Trump being Iron Man" thread? Hahahhaha.

Show us where it is written that we need to answer to you about ANYTHING.

I never claimed that was written anywhere. Did you think it was? Did you SEE it written somewhere?
I never saw it in the forum rules.

Fact, you are here just to ***** about Trump.

Posting about Trump being Trump in the Trump being Trump thread.
Who EVER would have expected THAT crazy turn of events? The world has gone topsy turvy!

No shit.

Then why demand I answer a question following your post of a definition? Odd.

Like I said, you don't pay attention to anything that doesn't allow you to talk trash. I have asked many questions in this thread alone. Not all questions require a response.

OK. What is "the" question you didn't ask in the thread, but have demanded I answer?
And if not not all questions require a response, why do you constantly complain I don't answer questions?

You are terribly inconsistent.