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[ThxOne Premium Member]

I see no proof that Biden is not tweeting and is unable to tweet.. I see no proof that Trump IS tweeting.
Can you provide some verifiable proof that Biden cannot tweet, as you have previously claimed?

Of course you don't. That's the point. You see what you want to see and not what you don't.

If you think he is unable to tweet, why would you use one of his alleged tweets to comment on his ability to speak? That's a total contradiction of ideas.

It's a picture of a well worded tweet. Well with words Biden is not. That is the irony.

And can you please speak to your claim that you are "not portraying Biden doing anything", yet your own post describes him by his name as doing something? Did you mean HUNTER Biden, or maybe JILL Biden, and not JOE Biden when you said:
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Or should we just walk away from that whole thing b/c it's another claim of yours that has been proved wrong?

When I was speaking about Trump and Diet Coke it had nothing to do with Biden. Please though, keep beating the dead horse until you win your trophy.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I see no proof that Biden is not tweeting and is unable to tweet.. I see no proof that Trump IS tweeting.
Can you provide some verifiable proof that Biden cannot tweet, as you have previously claimed?

If you think he is unable to tweet, why would you use one of his alleged tweets to comment on his ability to speak? That's a total contradiction of ideas.

And can you please speak to your claim that you are "not portraying Biden doing anything", yet your own post describes him by his name as doing something? Did you mean HUNTER Biden, or maybe JILL Biden, and not JOE Biden when you said:
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Or should we just walk away from that whole thing b/c it's another claim of yours that has been proved wrong?

"Special counsel Robert Hur’s portrait of a man who couldn’t remember when he served as Barack Obama’s vice president, or the year when his beloved son Beau died, dealt a blow to Biden’s argument that he is still sharp and fit enough to serve another four-year term."

‘A nightmare’: Special counsel’s assessment of Biden’s mental fitness triggers Democratic panic

Polls have long found that questions about his age and mental abilities have plagued Biden’s standing with the public.

www.nbcnews.com

Knock knock. Who's there? Not Joe Biden.

Like how much more evidence do you need bro? I'm starting to think you and Joe Biden share some of the same mental traits.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Of course you don't. That's the point. You see what you want to see and not what you don't.

So you think Biden in a picture with a phone is proof that he is unable to tweet, but then use the words that you claim he is unable to tweet to prove that he can't speak. And that a picture of Trump with a phone is proof that he CAN tweet.
Holy f you are all over the map.
I suppose a picture of Trump in a courtroom tells you he is an expert in courts, and if he is standing next to an F-22, he must be a fighter pilot? Or, does Trump need to CLAIM he knows more about courts than anyone before you believe it?
"Nobody knows more about technology than me" "Nobody knows more about construction than me" "I know about windmills very much. I studied it better than anybody" "I know more about courts than any human being on earth" "I know more about Isis than the generals do" "I know more about golf than Obama knows"
Delusional.

It's a picture of a well worded tweet. Well with words Biden is not. That is the irony.

BUT you said he can't tweet. Why would you judge him by those words when you claim they are not his words?
You painted yourself into a failure of logic there.

When I was speaking about Trump and Diet Coke it had nothing to do with Biden. Please though, keep beating the dead horse until you win your trophy.

Maybe you spoke without knowing what the conversation was about and decided to defend Trump with a poorly worded analogy that was also simply a poor analogy based on his history.
Fair enough.
But don't be shocked if you do something similar and it garners a similar response.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you think Biden in a picture with a phone is proof that he is unable to tweet, but then use the words that you claim he is unable to tweet to prove that he can't speak. And that a picture of Trump with a phone is proof that he CAN tweet.
Holy f you are all over the map.
I suppose a picture of Trump in a courtroom tells you he is an expert in courts, and if he is standing next to an F-22, he must be a fighter pilot? Or, does Trump need to CLAIM he knows more about courts than anyone before you believe it?
"Nobody knows more about technology than me" "Nobody knows more about construction than me" "I know about windmills very much. I studied it better than anybody" "I know more about courts than any human being on earth" "I know more about Isis than the generals do" "I know more about golf than Obama knows"
Delusional.

You are an extremest. It's either all or nothing with you.

BUT you said he can't tweet. Why would you judge him by those words when you claim they are not his words?
You painted yourself into a failure of logic there.

Let me help you comprehend. It's a well worded tweet. Biden is dumb. Therefore Biden no make tweet.

Maybe you spoke without knowing what the conversation was about and decided to defend Trump with a poorly worded analogy that was also simply a poor analogy based on his history.
Fair enough.
But don't be shocked if you do something similar and it garners a similar response.

Nope. I just didn't linger on the point I had already made about Biden. See, everyone else can make the point and move on... you have to keep talking about the point over and over until you bore everyone into not caring then you get a trophy.

 

[Speed Chaser]

With that logic, I guess every complaint you have about Biden can be attributed to "outlier events" since they happened during his presidency.
The influx of immigrants grows dramatically every year and almost doubles in a single year under Trump, but it's an "outlier" event.
The influx continues under Biden but at a slower rate, yet HE is doing a worse job and is the cause of it.

The numbers prove you 100% wrong, yet you will deny it and defend Trump.
THAT is what Trump Derangement Syndrome actually is: Blatant denial of reality in order to avoid accepting the truth about him.


OK. Fair enough., Your argument is that COVID had nothing do do with the numbers dropping, despite what all analysts have said about it. I am not an analyst, so I accept their expert work.

Please then, tell us the REAL reason the numbers dropped during COVID, and tell us how you reached your conclusion.
Please include the data you analyzed and the methods you used to analyze it, in order to claim with such authority that COVID had nothing to do with the numbers dropping in 2020.

Are you blind or stupid it has to be one or a 3rd option is you act dumb to try to make your baseless point more creditable? You keep saying the number proves me wrong but you have shown no evidence if there is so much of it show it. You keep asking me to show it and my chart shows it i can't fix stupidity if someone doesn't know how to read a chart and unlike you, my chart shows numbers for the 2 presidents being compared, unlike the irrelevant chart you posted. There is a big difference between growing just 100k between 2017 to 2018 for Trump vs Biden adding nearly an extra million from 2021 to 2022. It's funny how you keep capitalizing on Trump's doubling but ignore Biden's TRIPLING. My argument is that the numbers are lower in 2020 because Trump did his job as the president and passed policies to limit border flow during the lockdown. What policies has Biden passed to medigate his mess? TDS is someone that cant accept reality even when the the numbers don't work in their favor they will try anything to weasel themselves out of it.

 

[Speed Chaser]

8 Times Left-Wing Protesters Assaulted Government Buildings

Left-wing demonstrators have long made a habit of attacking, infiltrating, and occupying government buildings.

thefederalist.com

and that doesn't even include all the extremist groups the left has to do their dirty work like NFAC

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You are an extremest. It's either all or nothing with you.

So you don't want to speak to the incongruities of your claims versus reality, proof be damned.
Got it.

Let me help you comprehend. It's a well worded tweet. Biden is dumb. Therefore Biden no make tweet.

Biden definitely dumb. A graduate of the University of Delaware, and Syracuse Law school, a practicing attorney, one of the youngest people ever elected to Senate, managed to keep getting elected to remain in senate for 36 years, became Vice President, became President. Definitely a dummy.

Nope. I just didn't linger on the point I had already made about Biden. See, everyone else can make the point and move on... you have to keep talking about the point over and over until you bore everyone into not caring then you get a trophy.

Still avoiding admitting that you made a false claim about your own actions and then got proved wrong yet again.
And you wonder why this stuff goes in circles.

Are you blind or stupid it has to be one or a 3rd option is you act dumb to try to make your baseless point more creditable? You keep saying the number proves me wrong but you have shown no evidence if there is so much of it show it. You keep asking me to show it and my chart shows it i can't fix stupidity if someone doesn't know how to read a chart and unlike you, my chart shows numbers for the 2 presidents being compared, unlike the irrelevant chart you posted. There is a big difference between growing just 100k between 2017 to 2018 for Trump vs Biden adding nearly an extra million from 2021 to 2022. It's funny how you keep capitalizing on Trump's doubling but ignore Biden's TRIPLING. My argument is that the numbers are lower in 2020 because Trump did his job as the president and passed policies to limit border flow during the lockdown. What policies has Biden passed to medigate his mess? TDS is someone that cant accept reality even when the the numbers don't work in their favor they will try anything to weasel themselves out of it.

I have VERY clearly asked you to prove your claims with something more than "because I said so".
If "because I said so" is a valid backing for an argument, we should all just say our piece once, and then close the thread, as any further debate is pointless.
I am more than willing to back up what I say with the data. And I have done so.
So I'll ask again: Show us your analysis that the decline in 2020 was not due to COVID. Show us the datasets you used and the method of making your calculations and determinations. They should have at least 7 different data points, like the professional research centers use.

Further, explain how the explosive influx under Trump is NOT an indication that the crisis started during hsi administration, but that a smaller rate of growth under Biden IS proof that the crisis is his fault.

8 Times Left-Wing Protesters Assaulted Government Buildings

Left-wing demonstrators have long made a habit of attacking, infiltrating, and occupying government buildings.

thefederalist.com

and that doesn't even include all the extremist groups the left has to do their dirty work like NFAC

Tell us more about how the "left" has the NFAC do their dirty work.
is it anything like how the right has domestic terrorists like Timothy McVeigh do THEIR dirty work?

Tell us more about how the left is worse than the right as far as violence.
I'm sure your analysis will differ 100%, but here is something of interest:
"However, although there was a historically high level of both far-right and far-left terrorist attacks in 2021, violent far-right incidents were significantly more likely to be lethal, both in terms of weapon choice and number of resulting fatalities"

Pushed to Extremes: Domestic Terrorism amid Polarization and Protest

The number of domestic terrorist attacks and plots at demonstrations has increased, resulting in escalating violence in U.S. cities between extremists from opposing sides. This analysis updates a CSIS data set to assess trends in domestic terrorism through December 2021.

www.csis.org

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

How gov propaganda works 101:

Travis Kelce’s Debut as a Film Producer Is Also the First Movie Financed Using President Biden’s Green Energy Tax Credits (EXCLUSIVE)

Travis Kelce's film "My Dead Friend Zoe" becomes the first Hollywood project to take advantage of Biden's 2022 Inflation Reduction Act.

variety.com

Sell your soul, get benefits:

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you don't want to speak to the incongruities of your claims versus reality, proof be damned.
Got it.

Nope, nothing to talk about.

Biden definitely dumb. A graduate of the University of Delaware, and Syracuse Law school, a practicing attorney, one of the youngest people ever elected to Senate, managed to keep getting elected to remain in senate for 36 years, became Vice President, became President. Definitely a dummy.

Just proof that none of that matters and it's all about who ya know cause he is as dumb as they get.

Still avoiding admitting that you made a false claim about your own actions and then got proved wrong yet again.
And you wonder why this stuff goes in circles.

Rob you are claiming I did something. I cleared it up for you which makes you wrong so now your ego has taken over.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope, nothing to talk about.

As usual. Facts be damned.

Just proof that none of that matters and it's all about who ya know cause he is as dumb as they get.

Yes. Because that's how real life works. Lol.

Rob you are claiming I did something. I cleared it up for you which makes you wrong so now your ego has taken over.

We get it. You think proof is irrelevant and that your claims are reality.
You've shown us literally dozens of times now.
And you wonder why people here think you are clueless.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

As usual. Facts be damned.

What facts Rob? The fact that I was talking about Trump and YOU went back to Biden? Yes, that is fact.

Yes. Because that's how real life works. Lol.

That's funny to you? We have a brainless idiot in the White House but he's democrat so it's all good.

We get it. You think proof is irrelevant and that your claims are reality.
You've shown us literally dozens of times now.
And you wonder why people here think you are clueless.

How many times do you have to hear it? I moved past my point on Biden and was talking about Trump. You haven't shut anything down you are just being you letting your ego pull you around.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

What facts Rob? The fact that I was talking about Trump and YOU went back to Biden? Yes, that is fact.

You complain about the round-and-round, but here you are forcing it to happen.
The fact that I posted a screenshot of you speaking directly of Biden and his actions, then you saying you are not speaking of Biden and his actions.
The screenshot is a fact. A piece of evidence. Proof that you did something which you later claimed not to have done or be doing.

That's funny to you? We have a brainless idiot in the White House but he's democrat so it's all good.

What's funny is that you think you are correct in your analysis that he did all that he did in life simply because he knew someone and had connections.
You must use the same analysis techniques for all of the other things you are wrong about.

How many times do you have to hear it? I moved past my point on Biden and was talking about Trump. You haven't shut anything down you are just being you letting your ego pull you around.

Ohhh, you "moved past it". Got it. Falling in line with your past expressed beliefs that history is irrelevant.
Since you "moved past it", you can then claim it never happened.
Cool.

But let's get back on track.
Since you were complaining that people will accuse Trump of lying, there's a valid reason for it: There is documented proof of over THIRTY THOUSAND times he had lied to us DURING HIS PRESIDENCY ALONE.
When someone does ANYTHING thirty thousand times, you'd be a fool not to think it's what they do and expect them to do it again.
And shocker of shockers, he's still doing it:
"Haley’s plan cuts Social Security benefits for 82% of Americans."
FALSE - Only 82% of Amricans are eligible to begin with. And Haley's plan change regards retirement age for Americans who are currently in their 20's, which is only 26% of people.
They are increasing the retirement age due to updated life expectancy numbers. It was last done in 1983.
A change that will help us from having people on SSA for a longer part of their lives than they used to be.

It would take effect in 2030 and does not affect current retirees or people close to retirement.
But why let facts get in the way. Right?

'Funny that a change to help secure the ongoing availability of SSA benefits is being portrayed as a bad thing by Trump. Maybe he WANTS the program to fold and have another collapse of the economy.
Then we can be angry at his replacement for economic recovery.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Or maybe the government should get out of the retirement plan business...

The return of investment is higher with a private plan...

A private plan can also be left to someone when you pass unlike social security...helping to create generational wealth...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Or maybe the government should get out of the retirement plan business...

The return of investment is higher with a private plan...

A private plan can also be left to someone when you pass unlike social security...helping to create generational wealth...

Interesting idea.
I wonder how long a gradual phase-out would take, and then how much of a struggle to put the onus on the employers to do the monthly deductions from payroll, forward those deductions to various investment firms, etc.
And add the legal ramifications of private companies mandating people fund their retirement, and taking their money as needed.

I guess if it becomes a law, then there wouldn't be much choice.
I'd like to know what my retirement would have been if all of the deductions made over the years were put into privately managed funds.

 

[Old_Slapper]

Only thing that Trump did was play golf on the taxpayers dime more then anyone in history of the Presidency regardless of if it was 1 term or 2 terms. He blew away Obama's golfing by far. Not too mention only doing it at his golf courses so he could charge the secret service and the government millions of dollars for the security, golf cart rentals and anything else he could think of. I am no fan of any President golfing on our dime. But at least Obama did some at military bases where security is much higher.

Trump told over 30,000 lies. And continues to this day lying in public and on twitter.

Look I am NOT A BIDEN FAN. I can't stand either of those two people. But facts are Trump and his allies do that stuff all the time. And the one time Biden does it the right loses their minds over it. But yet when you say something about Trump regarding him doing it or his allies in the GOP. Well then its wrong and so on and so on.

Can't have it both ways people. Look I don't like anyone pulling this stuff. But if it is going to happen then yeah I am gonna sit back and laugh at the one Biden did throwing it back in the MAGA crowds faces.

When Trump was golfing, he was still working. Biden was sleeping.

Biden has had less than 90 news conferences and when he has them, most of the time he will only call on the reporters that are on his list. Yes, he has to read them from a list. Trumps has had 3 times as many new conferences, and they were a heck of a lot longer and he didn't need a list of people he was allowed to talk to.

There are a lot of things that right wingers do that make me roll my eyes.

And maybe it just seems this way, but it more often than not seems to be the "Republican" thing to lean to violence when things aren't going in their favor. Anyone recall the noose and gallows with chants of "hang Pence" on January 6th? Anyone recall Jan 6th? Anyone notice how the Republican response to not getting their way is to make a show of force with guns?
Maybe both parties want to, but only one makes a public show of it?

You claimed Republicans are the more violent ones and the only ones showing force with guns. The NFAC is a democrat Militia.