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If not falling into a cult that worships a fat old, diaper wearing criminal makes me a high achiever. :cool:
So you're hiding behind a false moral high ground instead of backing up your claim I always defend Trump

You're just another cookie cutter ideologue that lives by feelings over facts
 
BLM is clearly a political group and suffered no backlash for organizing protests that lead to widespread rioting.
Rioting is putting it mildly when you look at the sheer amount of damage


1-2 billion in insured costs alone...
 
So you're hiding behind a false moral high ground instead of backing up your claim I always defend Trump

You're just another cookie cutter ideologue that lives by feelings over facts
That's just the collective narcissism kicking in. Notice the inability to admit it's just as hypocritical to let BLM slide for their riots as it is to not acknowledge Trump's role in J6. Whereas the narcissist will never admit they made a mistake, Team Blue cannot admit someone in the collective made a mistake. Remember when they all said Which Way Do I Go Joe was perfectly fine despite 2 years of footage demonstrating the poor guy was suffering the onset of dementia? Collective narcissism is why they went after Maher and even go as far as claim he's not one of them despite 30+ years well documented history of carrying their banner. They claim Rogan is an outright conservative. The Sidney Sweeney ad is another good example. A couple idiots in the group start screaming "Nazi Propaganda, White Supremacy" and the next thing you know the whole group is echoing that narrative. Non of them stopped and said, "Hold on guys, advertisers have been using pretty girls to merch for decades."

They lack the ability to self-reflect upon the acts of the whole and concude anything other than "we are right." It's crazy to see on such a large scale. I'm sure we talking 10s of millions of people. ~80m voted for Harris and I'd guess it's over 1/2 of them, so say ~50 million people in the group.
 
Rioting is putting it mildly when you look at the sheer amount of damage


1-2 billion in insured costs alone...
Not only did they riot, but it persisted across several cities for weeks compared to j6 which lasted a few hours. They even set up the CHAZ in Portland. And CNN kept fueling the fire. But no critique from the leftists. I wonder how many smaĺ businesses never recovered or decided that weren't going to rebuild knowing their governors were "pro-riot."
 
No we don't know why I jumped to his defense because I've never defended Thx on this matter. Of course I saw something wrong with his POV, which why I specifically called him a hypocrite when addressing you. Apparently, your hypocrisy is beyond reproach, but Thx should be called out on his. Ironically, that is the very essence of hypocrisy.

You should stick to name calling - clearly your command of the facts is lacking.

Context matters. I only brought up the George Floyd riots hypothetical to see if thx would apply his "force" standard of blame to those, the same way he used the standard to deny wrongdoing by Trump.

Of course.....you only took issue with one side. You see....this only strengthens my claims. You say that you disagree with thx on his assessment of Trump's culpability on January 6th, yet you jumped straight over his posts to attack mine. Gotta to defend the other culters no matter what. The fact that (as I illustrated in past post) you think the blue team is anti-laws while praising Trump only shows your double standard on which laws you actually care about.

Hypocrisy on top of cultism.
 
I get what you're saying. Anything to excuse your hypocrisy. Leftist organizations are beyond reproach because leftist organizations are beyond reproach. Just like you don't hold the Proud Boys or Oath Keepers responsible for their actions because they aren't officially part of the GOP.

Just because you have a cult mentality doesn't mean I do. Again, you're in a thread that I started specifically to criticize Trump. You're just pissed that I dared to hold up the mirror that reveals your hypocrisy.

Everybody knows Trump & Epstein have a past. That doesn't make Trump a pedo and it certainly doesn't explain why BidenCo didn't use it to stop the biggest threat to democracy since that German fella in the 1940s. Furthermore, keep in mind your conspiracy theory is built upon a right wing conspiracy theory courtesy of Alex Jones - that's pretty shakey ground. Epstein Island is 1 of the 3 conspiracies that Jones got right out of the thousands he's put out there.

Assuming Epstein really has an extortion list, then it's my best guess, that any and everybody regardless of their party affiliation will sit on it and use if for its intended purpose - extortion. If you were a world leader with a list like what Epstein supposedly had, would you cough it up? Or what makes more sense is there is no list. Compiling a list like that is a good way to end up sleeping with the fishes.

So wait.....are you saying that the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers are Republican organizations then? Because I certainly wouldn't call them that at all. Are their members largely extreme right wingers? No doubt. But they aren't organization arms of the republican party.....just like BLM isn't an organizational arm of the democratic party despite the majority of their members undoubtedly being far left.

It's not my fault that you can't handle being part of the obvious cult. But the fact is that even small criticisms are parlayed with 'yeah buts'. Your first post mentions Trump's attack on the constitution. Yet, using the goldfish mentality of MAGA cultists.....you've just this past week called team blue pro-crime while praising Trump for not being "pro-crime".

I mean.....yeah.....you aren't drinking the kool aid or anything. :ROFLMAO:

Thank you Bad Orange Man. We really needed this. TDA was pretty slick choosing their base of operations. It's a little section of the city that is unincorporated and low crime, so not alot police presence. I know Team Blue is pro-crime right now, luckily, Orange Man isn't.


As for the Epstein list.....we have no idea what's on them. Probably more flight logs and lists of dates and times of people staying on the island. Betting that there's no hard evidence of pedophilia however. So that brings up whether there's anything to actually prosecute over, or if the file dump would be nothing more than to shame people. I've always thought they should release the info. But I also understand that powerful people own politicians and if they're in the files, don't want them released.

But again.....this all comes back to the YEAR LONG promises of releasing the files by the Trump admin. A carrot for the cultists to nibble on, because they thought he was going to expose a leftist cabal, just to turn around and decide not to release them because Trump showed up all over them.

And here you are excusing it and playing defense. Definitely not cultist behavior. :ROFLMAO:
 
So you're hiding behind a false moral high ground instead of backing up your claim I always defend Trump

You're just another cookie cutter ideologue that lives by feelings over facts

I post every once in a while. You respond with the same MAGA cult rebuts every time without fail. You want inconclusive proof that you are MAGA cult, but refuse to provide the same when you call me team blue. Think your hypocrisy goes unnoticed? Maybe with the other cultists.
 
I post every once in a while. You respond with the same MAGA cult rebuts every time without fail. You want inconclusive proof that you are MAGA cult, but refuse to provide the same when you call me team blue. Think your hypocrisy goes unnoticed? Maybe with the other cultists.
The difference is Spokey can pull up posts were he has disagreed with Trump. The very fact that MAGA has spoke out against the Big Beautiful Bill & the Epstein flip-flop demonstrate there is no MAGA cult for Spokey to join if he wanted.

OTOH, Team Blue marched lock step down " Biden's Fine" highway when it was beyond clear that Which Way Do I Go Joe had been suffering serious cognitive issues for 2+ years.
 
So wait.....are you saying that the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers are Republican organizations then? Because I certainly wouldn't call them that at all. Are their members largely extreme right wingers? No doubt. But they aren't organization arms of the republican party.....just like BLM isn't an organizational arm of the democratic party despite the majority of their members undoubtedly being far left.

It's not my fault that you can't handle being part of the obvious cult. But the fact is that even small criticisms are parlayed with 'yeah buts'. Your first post mentions Trump's attack on the constitution. Yet, using the goldfish mentality of MAGA cultists.....you've just this past week called team blue pro-crime while praising Trump for not being "pro-crime".

I mean.....yeah.....you aren't drinking the kool aid or anything. :ROFLMAO:
Again please join us in reality. When have I ever "yeah butted" for Trump. Again how am I a member of the pro Trump "cult" when I started this thread for the express purpose of criticizing him?
As for the Epstein list.....we have no idea what's on them.
Right we don't know what's in them. That's where you and i differ. I accept that I don't know what's in them or if there is even a "list." OTOH, you claimed Trump did a 180 on the files to protect himself from incrimination.
Probably more flight logs and lists of dates and times of people staying on the island. Betting that there's no hard evidence of pedophilia however. So that brings up whether there's anything to actually prosecute over, or if the file dump would be nothing more than to shame people. I've always thought they should release the info. But I also understand that powerful people own politicians and if they're in the files, don't want them released.
There seems to be significant evidence of underage trafficking. I can certainly understand why rich powerful people would want the files kept under wraps.
But again.....this all comes back to the YEAR LONG promises of releasing the files by the Trump admin. A carrot for the cultists to nibble on, because they thought he was going to expose a leftist cabal, just to turn around and decide not to release them because Trump showed up all over them.

And here you are excusing it and playing defense. Definitely not cultist behavior. :ROFLMAO:

I'm not excusing it. As far as I'm concerned the Epstein list is right wing conspiracy wet dreams. It's impossible for me to excuse that which I don't even believe exists. Did Trump lie, sure. Same thing with Kennedy files. Same thing that every politician does.

Again this demonstrates our differences; I accept that politicians on both sides lie. OTOH, you turned that lie into "Trump's covering up his crimes" without the slightest bit of evidence. If I'm to take you at your word, you don't even believe there is any evidence to cover up in the first place. Yet you made the claim anyway. It's sad to see so many people caught up in their collective narcissism that the logic circuits in their brains stop functioning.

If it makes you feel better to accuse me of being in a cult despite my long and well documented history of criticizing Trump, then go ahead. It's merely a crutch that you use to avoid reflecting on just how shitty Team Blue has become and to ignore your hypocrisy.
 
Context matters. I only brought up the George Floyd riots hypothetical to see if thx would apply his "force" standard of blame to those, the same way he used the standard to deny wrongdoing by Trump.
Baiting huh?
Of course.....you only took issue with one side. You see....this only strengthens my claims. You say that you disagree with thx on his assessment of Trump's culpability on January 6th, yet you jumped straight over his posts to attack mine. Gotta to defend the other culters no matter what. The fact that (as I illustrated in past post) you think the blue team is anti-laws while praising Trump only shows your double standard on which laws you actually care about.
Nobody has to comment on my post. If Jimi77 didn't want to respond then he didn't have to. He wanted to respond to you.
Hypocrisy on top of cultism.
George died because he was an addict in poor health. He broke the law and was under arrest. While under arrest his poor health and drug use killed him. Criminals are held down everyday like that and live. He was a black man so automatically cue the racist crying foul. Cue the media to stir the pot because bad news makes for good ratings. Cue the left because pandering = votes.
 
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I post every once in a while. You respond with the same MAGA cult rebuts every time without fail. You want inconclusive proof that you are MAGA cult, but refuse to provide the same when you call me team blue. Think your hypocrisy goes unnoticed? Maybe with the other cultists.
Show me these "maga cult rebuts" I use
 
I love how stocker08 keeps using the phrase "MAGA Cult". Tell us about your cult stocker08. Tell us about that good old Democrat Cult. Tell us how pure you people are and how accepting of everyone you are. Tell us how there is no blame or hate in your Democrat Cult. Tell us how you are the Cult of law and order, of peace for all.
 
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