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I am actually thinking of support Clinton. The universal health care thing does have some merit. Me and my dad was talking about how a guy worked at his company for 10 years and got laid off because he was the low man, during the course of employment he developed MD and the medication cost his astronomical. I'd be willing to bet if/when he finds new employment they either will charge him crazy amount of insurance, if insure him at all. What is this fellow supposed to do? I know the medicine for MS runs about $2.5k/mo. That is slightly less than the median income.
The issue with the Obama plan is that it does not force low-risk people into the pool. Under his plan, only people who would use the maximum benfit would join. For instance, I get healthcare because it is cheap ($70/mo). If health care was say $125/mo, I wouldn't get it. I would take the risk. See how you would only have the highest risk people in the pool? Hillary, otoh, forces everyone into the pool. And insurance works as it should, the low risk members offset the cost of the high risk members. I am not sure why Obama doesn't understand this.
Cut your ****ing tongue out. I shouldn't be burden by the problems of people like your dads friend. As unfortunate it may look, BOO HOO cry me a river.

 
What if it were you?
Should you just let him die? Homeless in the streets?

I have seen your house...I doubt you could afford ~$30k/yr in medical bills.
You are right. I couldn't afford that, but I am not a bleeding liberal. I wouldn't impose my problems on others and don't expect it from others. If I impose my problems on anyone it will be from my family and that is as far as it goes. I put myself in their shoes and I still don't see how it is ANYONE else's problem but my own. PERIOD

Who is he to me?

I wish the best for all mankind, but if I were to worry about everyone, I'd shoot myself.

EDIT: what does my house have to do with affording that much in medical bills.

 
But you act as if the problems you pose on your friends and family are insignificant. Unfortunately, we live in a society where people cannot handle the issues within the nuclear family. Consider me....I strive and strive to eliminate the influence of others on my life, and conversely my influence on the life of others. I don't post for a day and I get a PM asking if everything is okay...
I don't act as if they are insignificant. It is the job of Friends and family to care for one another. It isn't the job of some stranger who happens to be well off to care of my health care. Plain and simple I can't and will not burden everyone, nor do I want to carry the burden of everyone. That is idiotic thinking.

 
You have friends or family with $2,500/yr? I do not
Society is already carrying the burden of your existance. From the moment your mother noticed she was preggo, until the day you die....you are burdening me with your negative externalities.
This all matters not. I don't see how my problems should be the problems of everyone else. It makes no sense to me. If my negative externalities burden you, then ignore them. I have had my problems in life and will have plenty more. They are MY problems, I will deal with them the best I can.
I do have a heart and I have my charities I give too where I think the circumstances are too much not to care. A blanket program that makes me pay for everyone though is outrageous as there are way too many out there I wouldn't give a dime to help out as I think they are useless.

 
I cannot ignore them. That is why they are called externalities.

They just simply aren't your problems. They are everyone's problems. The fact that you are employed means someone else cannot have that job. The fact that you are married means someone else cannot marry your wife, or the plot of land you own. The emmission and waste you create. The noise you make in public.

Those externalities are indeed real. Without such externalities, there would be no such thing as something as simple as property rights.
FACTS OF LIFE.

So now I need to worry about the poor sap who can't marry my wife? WTF is wrong with you?

This is what I mean about killing myself worrying about everything. I pity the poor soul who does.

We will have to declare impasse, because I will not understand how someones health is my problem OR ANYONE else's problem but that individual. I am here to make the most of my life and willingly care for those I chose to, not to make everyone else's life good. The more I say, the more I am sure I sound like a heartless ******* so I withdraw from this discussion.

 
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