crossovers???

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

ok what i want to do is run a set of tweeters, 5.25 midrange, and some midbass. my headunit is a pioneer 860. not sure if i'm gonna get a 6-channel amp or a 4 channel and 2 channel. the problem i have is i only have 3 outputs from my deck. i'm a little sketchy as too how these electronic crossovers work. is there a crossover out there where i can have my 3 inputs, then have a low pass for my sub amp, a bandpass for my midbass, another bandpass for my midrange, and a high pass for my tweeters? or is there another way to go about this? as you can tell i'm really dense when it comes to crossovers.

In any event-I'm in the same boat.

If you go 4ch, u can run it off the front rcas, but then it affects your T/A unless the tweets/midrange are ran super close together

My prob is I have a 2 2ch's to run 6 speakers:crying:

The Zapco is going bye bye soon for a 4ch so I at least have individual gains to work with.

 

[Blazemore 10+ year member]

3.5Max6spd where did you get the Rubicon's at?

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

3.5Max6spd where did you get the Rubicon's at?

you got a pm

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

In any event-I'm in the same boat.
If you go 4ch, u can run it off the front rcas, but then it affects your T/A unless the tweets/midrange are ran super close together

My prob is I have a 2 2ch's to run 6 speakers:crying:

The Zapco is going bye bye soon for a 4ch so I at least have individual gains to work with.

i got a 6-channel amp. i'm just gonna split the rear output, to hook up channels 5/6 and 3/4. i'm gonna build some sealed door pods for the midbass, and some kicks for my 5.25's and tweeters. what i'm gonna do is like highpass on the headunit 63 hz. and lowpass on the amps 5/6 channels probably 200 hz. or so and then high pass 3/4 at 200 hz. then the tweeters at around 2khz. if you are looking for a 4-channel i got one for sale //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif it's not zapco but still pretty solid.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

then the tweeters at around 2khz.

I still say higher //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

I still say higher //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

it's not set in stone //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif i'm just throwing out numbers for an example.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

want some horns?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

right now as we speak...
i have tweeters running off passives (2500hz 18db)and dome midranges full range past naturally rolling off at 5k... 630hz 6db slope HP off front channels

my mids are bandpassed 63hz- 800hz (24db slopes)

Its very limiting to run full 4way with anything other than a DRZ/P9 or external processor/xovers.....cannot do it fully active otherwise

Here's some pics on my instal i finished up recently adding my midranges...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/466763/11

sorry to bring up an old thread but i had a question. are you using your time alignment because i just drew up a quick sketch with your setup and you can't use the TA correctly? i'd like to do a 3 way active frontstage (something similar to yours) but i can't see how it will work without affecting the TA.

in a later post you said it might be okay if the midrange and tweet is close together so what i was thinking of doing is putting the midbass in the stock speaker location and getting kick panels for the midrange and tweet. so what your suggesting is put the midrange and tweet in the front RCA and basically using the TA off that and it would be fine?

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

sorry to bring up an old thread but i had a question. are you using your time alignment because i just drew up a quick sketch with your setup and you can't use the TA correctly? i'd like to do a 3 way active frontstage (something similar to yours) but i can't see how it will work without affecting the TA.
in a later post you said it might be okay if the midrange and tweet is close together so what i was thinking of doing is putting the midbass in the stock speaker location and getting kick panels for the midrange and tweet. so what your suggesting is put the midrange and tweet in the front RCA and basically using the TA off that and it would be fine?

Yes...T/A need is based on pathlength differences to the listener, speakers which are closest....if both your midrange and tweet are equally as far from the drivers seat, they would require same delay. Obviously its not the most perfect scenario(it would be nice to have 4way individual speaker control), but this isd a simple way around it and it works fine.

Actually i recently measured my midbass and tweets(both in doors) and they are approx the exact same pathlength to me....so what I'm doing as we speak is i'm going to run an external 2/3way xover off my front ch's....hp the tweets amd bp the midbass off this analog xover-since they are same pathlengths, they can be delayed together off the full range signal i'll be sending it from my front channels.

I will then use my rear preouts on my hu and t/a and b/p my dome midranges- which i'm my situation works out well- i'll have 5band peq just on the midranges and be able to overlap freq's xover wise if need be

The midbass and tweets will have a 5band peq between them....which is fine- i only need a 1db cut at 100hz, 400hz , 5khz and 10khz....

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

^ Bah. That seems like a lot of work. I would do that if it wasn't for school. Maybe someday .

another question if you don't mind. how are you wiring your speakers to make the TA work? like whats going into the Front Left RCA and Front Right RCA? just say theoretically that you have a two channel amp to run the midbass and tweet, so wouldn't you have to put the Midbass left and Tweeter left in Front Left (or Hi Left) in channel 1, so you can adjust the TA on the deck for the Hi Left? because if you hook the tweet right and the tweet left in channel one, you can't adjust the TA at all because they would offset each other since they are on left and right of the listener.

lol dunno if that made any sense but answer if you can. And yea it'd be nice to have something like a DRZ9255 so it makes everything so much easier but hey it works for you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/2thumbs.gif.fdc3ba010dbb42b61704534b46d02fe4.gif for you.

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

another question if you don't mind. how are you wiring your speakers to make the TA work? like whats going into the Front Left RCA and Front Right RCA? just say theoretically that you have a two channel amp to run the midbass and tweet, so wouldn't you have to put the Midbass left and Tweeter left in Front Left (or Hi Left) in channel 1, so you can adjust the TA on the deck for the Hi Left? because if you hook the tweet right and the tweet left in channel one, you can't adjust the TA at all because they would offset each other since they are on left and right of the listener.

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Front channels send full range signal to xover---> xover has output for HP (tweeters) and output for BP (midbasses)---> those outputs are sent to the amps

All you need to T/A is the speakers closest to you- sitting inthe drivers seat that would mean the drivers side. If I T/A my front drivers side, that signal is delayed going into the x-over...get it?

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

Front channels send full range signal to xover---> xover has output for HP (tweeters) and output for BP (midbasses)---> those outputs are sent to the amps

All you need to T/A is the speakers closest to you- sitting inthe drivers seat that would mean the drivers side. If I T/A my front drivers side, that signal is delayed going into the x-over...get it?

Roger that. thanx.