Crazy Idea...

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

If I may add to this..........you also need to upgrade your mid-bass/mid speakers and tweeters. They affect the sounds you are refering to as "slow" "muddy" bass or your bass not being tight enough.  

Do you still have your factory speakers hooked up? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/satan.gif.9c6a335ed7aeeed3ee273e573f1fcaac.gif

Tru dat, tru dat. Also part of the reason people think 15's are "boomy", they don't have an adequate front stage to properly mate with a larger sub (or any high output sub for that matter).

 

[B@SSAN8OR 10+ year member]

you dont even need to go with 15's if the box is designed right for the size sub you have. we have made 8 in drivers hit harder then 12 in drivers. it all depends on the box

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

^^^^ This is true, it can be done...however if he's asking about using that many different subs, his box designing skills are probably not up to par in creating a box that makes an 8 hit like a 15.

 

[B@SSAN8OR 10+ year member]

yes very true

 

[EscaladeESV 10+ year member]

well of course this was just at the top of my head. i really really learned a lot by reading all the comments...

n e ways, seriously....how would 2 10"'s and 1 8" sound? would I have to use a ported or sealed box? I'm thinking of putting this in an accord. I already have the 8" sub, so theres no use on saying your wasting your money. its just the 10's I need. im not sure if i'll get better bass or w/e with the 3 subs....but thats why im on here..

p.s. im just a beginner //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/help.gif.cee8f684da1ba626487a8bc51152e1ec.gif

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

If you're a beginner, do not mix subs.

What 10's are you looking at? How much do you have to spend on subs? What amp will you be using? How much space do you have/are willing to give up? What kind of sound are you looking for...SQ or SPL?

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

yes very true

But not likely, please don't tell people they can do things that are very complicated when they're beginners, as you seem to be.

 

[EscaladeESV 10+ year member]

Well.... I guess mixing subs is out.

I plan on getting 2 Rockford Fosgate P110S4 Punch 10" (on a budget, of course if there are better subs for the same price please let me know)

As far as the amp, Im not sure. Would a Legacy Series II LA320 2 Channel 500W Bridgeable Amp or maybe a MTX RT251D or a Sony XM2200GTX work. Im not sure. I would like to spend the least amount of money yet still be able to hear the subs 5-10 doors down (my main goal since it will be my first *real* system)

Im not sure what i really want the system to preform.. I was thinking spl, but I have no clue. I have as much trunk space as needed. I might make a box myself (well, attempt) but I can always get these guys from an audio store down the street to make one for me.

Thanks for all the help so far!!!

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

you dont even need to go with 15's if the box is designed right for the size sub you have. we have made 8 in drivers hit harder then 12 in drivers. it all depends on the box

Im sorry, how hard does a 12" driver hit? What kind of statement is that?

 

[B@SSAN8OR 10+ year member]

we had 8 in driver hit a higher spl then 12 in drivers

 

[bigred78797 10+ year member]

If you put a 12 inch sub in a crappy box and a 8 in sub in a excellently tuned box then yes. If you put a 12 inch sub in a very well tuned box vs a 8 inch sub in an equivalently tuned box then the 12 inch sub will destroy. Technically it is possible but that has to be one sorry *** box and 12. A 12 inch sub has approximately 100 in sq of cone area while a 8 inch sub has about 50 in sq of cone area. Take into conscideration that everytime you double the cone area that's an additional 3db's.

You guys must have put that 12" to 10 watts in a box that was made of balsa wood and put the 8" sub in a perfectly tuned box to pull that one off. Once again it is possible to get an 8 louder that a 12 but in my opinion you have to try really hard to do it.

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

Bigred is right, it's very hard to do....but it can be done, hell kicker made an 8 L7 hit 148.6 dB, but it's just hard to do in general.

To the other points at hand though...

still be able to hear the subs 5-10 doors down (my main goal since it will be my first *real* system)

Don't say this for the risk of being flamed, it's looked down upon here as that should not be the main, or even secondary, or rather any reason for getting a system.

As far as your situation though, how much do you have to spend total? Legacy amps are garbage, and I know there's better subs for the money than rockfords. Let us know what your budget is and we'll help you out.

Also, the box....make it yourself, but get a design from jmac or someone around here (cost like $5 or $10 for a design). The car audio shop will most likely charge over $200 and you can get it done yourself for ~$25 in materials plus the design fee if you choose to go that route.

 

[EscaladeESV 10+ year member]

Don't say this for the risk of being flamed, it's looked down upon here as that should not be the main, or even secondary, or rather any reason for getting a system.

I was trying to get a distance range...not that I would do anything to piss anyone off if thats what you mean. I just want something that you know it can hit hard sometimes. Since my last system was garbage, sadly it sounded almost the same as stock speakers. lol I just want something better.

Thanx for the warning tho. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif

My budget is from w/e - $600 (CND) at the most for subs amp and possibly wiring kit

Ya I was thinking of making it myself, although theres a guy on my street that could build one for me, free of charge (If I supply the material)

Also, keeping with the topic, whats a good way to setup subs in honda accord trunk? (shape of the box)

 

[swimfreak26 10+ year member]

I may be an idiot for asking this, but what's the current conversion rate from the canadian dollar to american? In other words, how much is $600 canadian?

 

[dbornotdb 10+ year member]

About $125 right?