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[gckless 5,000+ posts]

Was just wondering why people pay for a better 3.5k (Sundown, DC, etc.) when they could get 2 BC3500's for just about the same price? Sure it's built a bit better, but am I missing something besides the nuthugging/them just wanting a better built amp?

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[Montana]

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[gckless 5,000+ posts]

@TaylorFade have you done any testing in regards to this?

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

lets just say evert person i know that has had a cresendo amp personally ,didnt have it long

 

[gckless 5,000+ posts]

lets just say evert person i know that has had a cresendo amp personally ,didnt have it long

Did they fail/blow, or did they just get rid of them because the same class of a higher end amp will put out more?

 

[myjaja 10+ year member]

Id never pay full retail or those amps but if I happen to see a used BC3500 for $550 which is how much they go for used and a used sundown saz-3500 for $630, id go for the sundown.

 

[TaylorFade 10+ year member]

The Crescendos are pretty solid amps. They can't quite keep up with the others mentioned though (unfortunately). I don't know what f'n boards they use or buildhouse or any of that conspiracy crap. All I know is the amps I've owned and tested... the BC3500 isn't as strong as the SAZ and not even the DC (which I wasn't really all that impressed with for how much they cost).

As far as the Sundown goes... his 3500 is basically a 4k so it's not a super fair fight. But even so... I would NEVER pay Sundown's MAP. No way.

In the grand scheme of things, they're all reliable amps. The difference between the top of tier 1 3-4k's and the bottom of tier 2 3-4k's is ~ 1,000w. Perhaps 1,500w wired to crackhead loads and on burps. The difference between them on the street would be waaaaay less. A few hundred watts probably.

The two nastiest 3k's I've ever owned or tested are the D5 and the B2 Zero.5. I've run them both daily and honestly.... if you sneaked a BC3500 in there without my knowledge, I wouldn't know the difference. The TL might though.

"On the street" is where Sundown and DD start to shine. They do really well on lower voltage and higher loads. Like... seeing 12.5v rising to 2.5 ohms or whatever. I love my cheater amps, but the fact of the matter is that you kind of HAVE to run the balls off of them to get the power. My D5 will still skull drag a BC3500, but then again... the 'nendo is a whole lot cheaper.

 

[gckless 5,000+ posts]

The Crescendos are pretty solid amps. They can't quite keep up with the others mentioned though (unfortunately). I don't know what f'n boards they use or buildhouse or any of that conspiracy crap. All I know is the amps I've owned and tested... the BC3500 isn't as strong as the SAZ and not even the DC (which I wasn't really all that impressed with for how much they cost).
As far as the Sundown goes... his 3500 is basically a 4k so it's not a super fair fight. But even so... I would NEVER pay Sundown's MAP. No way.

In the grand scheme of things, they're all reliable amps. The difference between the top of tier 1 3-4k's and the bottom of tier 2 3-4k's is ~ 1,000w. Perhaps 1,500w wired to crackhead loads and on burps. The difference between them on the street would be waaaaay less. A few hundred watts probably.

The two nastiest 3k's I've ever owned or tested are the D5 and the B2 Zero.5. I've run them both daily and honestly.... if you sneaked a BC3500 in there without my knowledge, I wouldn't know the difference. The TL might though.

"On the street" is where Sundown and DD start to shine. They do really well on lower voltage and higher loads. Like... seeing 12.5v rising to 2.5 ohms or whatever. I love my cheater amps, but the fact of the matter is that you kind of HAVE to run the balls off of them to get the power. My D5 will still skull drag a BC3500, but then again... the 'nendo is a whole lot cheaper.

Yeah, I'm not looking to compete, just lookin to get subs that have this kind of power rating moving on a daily basis. Reliability is probably the biggest factor I guess. Given what you said, I now know what to look for based on their respective prices. Don't pay new price for DC or Sundown, but if they are like $100 more than a used or new BC3500, I'll bite. That was said above as well, but thanks for the more informative answer. I'd assume the same goes for the 5k's of each company?

Have you ever tested any Arc? They claim to be very efficient, was curious to see just how efficient.

 

[NASTY08IMPALA 5,000+ posts]

i run the bc3500 and love it so far....for the money its a great amp ..although i am thinking bout doin a all aq setup with a 3500.1