Components that can handle 400 rms?

[redcalimp5 10+ year member]

Another PRO60SE seller that ships international....

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BOSTON-PRO60SE-6-5-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-PRO60SE_W0QQitemZ140334406632QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Speakers?hash=item20ac951be8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

 

[TheeyaN 10+ year member]

why do you need comps that handle 400watts is my question?

400 is maybe to much,but 300 would be good i think.. Why do i need it.. Becouse i like it.. For me components are more important that the subs,and i dont want my sub to over power my front stage.

Sub is being powered with 1350rms amp,so i need something that could follow.

I dont listen to hip hop.. I listen to progressive melodic house..

Here is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72bg5cETJwc

Please listen to the song and u will see that the song is 80 % music,and 20 % bass.. So.. Now u know..

 

[mazda6i07 10+ year member]

I am selling my Pro 60's and they take 300 http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421477

 

[redcalimp5 10+ year member]

400 is maybe to much,but 300 would be good i think.. Why do i need it.. Becouse i like it.. For me.. Components are more important that the subs,and i dont like my sub to ower power my mids.
When i have a sub that is powered with 1350 rms,i need to have something that can follow.

I dont listen to hip hop.. I listen to progressive melodic house..

Here is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72bg5cETJwc

Please listen to the song and u will see that the song is 80 % mucis,and 20 % bass.. So.. Now u know..

I can relate, although I listen to mostly hard rock and metal, with some 80's and other general music mixed in, depending on the mood.

I don't ever place much of an emphasis on my sub....it does the job,, fills in the bottom of the music nicely, and let's the mids and highs shine like they need to. I'm all about loud, clear, and dynamic, not loud, rumble, and boom.

 

[TheeyaN 10+ year member]

I can relate, although I listen to mostly hard rock and metal, with some 80's and other general music mixed in, depending on the mood.
I don't ever place much of an emphasis on my sub....it does the job,, fills in the bottom of the music nicely, and let's the mids and highs shine like they need to. I'm all about loud, clear, and dynamic, not loud, rumble, and boom.

Yeap.. Thats like me.. I want my sub to fit in my music,i dont want it to over power it.

And there are 2 ways to achieve that:

1.) Get a smaller sub

2.) Get better front stage.. Louder,clearer,more dynamic,with more details.

I am going for the second option.

As for the Bostons hm! Their peak power is 250.. I dont really think they could handle 300 RMS..

 

[mazda6i07 10+ year member]

Yeap.. Thats is me.. I want my sub to fit in my music,i dont want it to ower power it.
And there are 2 ways to achieve that:

1.) Get a smaller sub

2.) Get better front stage.. Louder,clearer,more dynamic,with more details.

I am going for the second option.

As for the Bostons hm! Their peak power is 250.. I dont really think they could handle 300 RMS..

Im giving them 150 per door right now. Powering them with a Memphis Mca2004, it's bridged. They're great!

 

[redcalimp5 10+ year member]

Yeap.. Thats like me.. I want my sub to fit in my music,i dont want it to over power it.
And there are 2 ways to achieve that:

1.) Get a smaller sub

2.) Get better front stage.. Louder,clearer,more dynamic,with more details.

I am going for the second option.

As for the Bostons hm! Their peak power is 250.. I dont really think they could handle 300 RMS..

Yep, I hear ya. I've always had 6 1/2" 2 way components in the front, no rears, and a single 12" sub in the hatch in a small, sealed box. It's always been a great setup for me, especially for what I listen to, and how I like to listen to it.

Man....if you're wanting to give a component set a TRUE 300w rms a side, you're gonna have to up your ceiling on your budget a couple hundred dollars. Most component sets in the $300 price range won't take that kind of power outright, unless you turned your gain WAY down on your amp to give yourself some headroom.

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

^^^Boston do get loud, but they lack any mid bass- tweeter can be harsh for some people,

yes I've owned a pair Pro60's.

I was powering them with a Pheonix Gold amp, 250 per side.

on the passive xover they sounded like crap to me.

I went active with them & sound much better.

Have you looked into Morel's

http://www.woofersetc.com/p4756/Hybrid-Ovation-6-Comp--Morel-6"-2-Way-Component-System.htm

useing there passive xover, these comps sound so nice & yes they get very loud with great detail, midbass is pretty good as well.

Hertz Milles, can get really loud, really nice tweeters.

Focals they also g very loud

with very effecient speakers you wont need 400rms to get what you want, plus placement & aimming,mids & tweeters play a great part.

 

[redcalimp5 10+ year member]

These Bostons will blow both the Morels and the PRO60's away, both in sound quality and midbass.....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-SPZ60-6-5-CAR-AUDIO-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ270411964919QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Speakers?hash=item3ef5cf21f7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

If you can find a used set on a forum, that would be a better route.

 

[TheeyaN 10+ year member]

Yeap.. Thats the deal with me 2.. Front stage.. No reard and certanly no 6x9 on the board.. Yuck..

Reference HU,time alingment,and a sealed box sub.

As for the mids.. Those JBL's look to me like they could handle it.. They have the 600w max,and in most cases rms power is half of the max power..

They rated it od 150w rms,but that is just becouse they want to sell it. Buying a 2x150 amp is not a problem,buying a really good 2x300 amp,and everything that goes with it IS. And who will give money for the speakers which produce their maxium at 300 rms,and power them with 100 rms when 100 rms can barely make them move..

I mean they would get loud even with 100 rms for some people,but they would be 4.5 DB louder with 300..

So why buy that when u can buy a speaker that gives it full on 100 or 150..

 

[mazda6i07 10+ year member]

The only difference from the Pros to the Spz's i believe is the tweeters, check the cpecs between the 2...

 

[redcalimp5 10+ year member]

The only difference from the Pros to the Spz's i believe is the tweeters, check the cpecs between the 2...

I've read on here and DIYMA people that have had the PRO60's, and then bought the SPZ60's noticed a significant increase in midbass output with the SPZ's......and they were able to take more power than the PRO60's.

 

[mazda6i07 10+ year member]

I've read on here and DIYMA people that have had the PRO60's, and then bought the SPZ60's noticed a significant increase in midbass output with the SPZ's......and they were able to take more power than the PRO60's.

Nice, i was unaware of that, but id would hope for the price they would change more than just the tweeters lol

thanks

 

[TheeyaN 10+ year member]

^^^Boston do get loud, but they lack any mid bass- tweeter can be harsh for some people, yes I've owned a pair Pro60's.

I was powering them with a Pheonix Gold amp, 250 per side.

on the passive xover they sounded like crap to me.

I went active with them & sound much better.

Have you looked into Morel's

http://www.woofersetc.com/p4756/Hybrid-Ovation-6-Comp--Morel-6"-2-Way-Component-System.htm

useing there passive xover, these comps sound so nice & yes they get very loud with great detail, midbass is pretty good as well.

Hertz Milles, can get really loud, really nice tweeters.

Focals they also g very loud

with very effecient speakers you wont need 400rms to get what you want, plus placement & aimming,mids & tweeters play a great part.

Yes i am aware of that. But efficency is over rated. Every brand makes diffrent testings,on diffrent conditions,and with diffrent music types so that doesnt have to mean anything.

An 84db midbass can be louder than 87db midbass with the same power. Its much more than simple numbers. Music has nothing to do with numbers,to bad we dont have a looooot of money to check out about 20-30 sets and than make our judgment.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Speaking of efficiency.. There is one brand in Spain.. Its called Beyma. They have speakers that are rated on 200 rms and have efficiency of 97 db.. 6.5 mids.. That sounds good in the numbers,but i dont really see anybody talking about them anywhere so.. Looks like they arent as good as the numbers say.

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

The SPZ's do have a better tweeter & more midbass, but i hhave compared the SPZ's against the Morels Hbbrid Ovation, Older ADS,Zapco,Focal's

yes in the San Francisco bay area there many high end shops most of them carry Boston & JL as there meduim brands, Focal's,Morel,Dynaudio,Zapco,Hertz,Rainbow, so it pretty easy to compare the unique sounds that each & every company has to offer with there comps sets.

The Boston's mids clear,but muddy-i would even say harsh for a mid.

the tweeter arent the smoothest,they are titanium tweeters.