CNN Republican Debates

[Roland 10+ year member]

The problem I find with Cruz is that the other senators do not like him. In politics, it doesn't matter who is the smartest or who has the facts or who has the best policies. People do not seem to like him.

I agree, but is he any less likable than Bush #1 , Ford, Nixon, Johnson... or Hillary for that matter. But i'm sure that a percantage folks won't vote him for that reason and that might cost a swing state or two.

 

[Roland 10+ year member]

The other scenarios have victims. Who is the victim when I do someone else's homework? It's no different than when my boss is given an assignment, I complete it, and he takes the credit (not against this...my role is a support function). I do not see a distinction. Cheating on a marriage, taxes, a team sport all have victims. I fail to find a victim.

By the way were you serious that you "fail to find a victim"? I was going to reply to that but you're smarter than me in many ways so I can't imagine you don't see the problems for our society that cheating in schools brings with it. ("our society, culture, country..." being the victim)

PS, At your office you are part of a team with a common goal. Supporting a the guy with the ball is teamwork and to a degree is expected. if you are not valued there you can get another job... A student in school is not a team endeavor. Just off the bat, as a retired aircarft mechanic i'm thinking. Would you like to fly on a aircraft that had a overhaul from a mechanic that cheated his way through school. (victim) How about the airline that hired him, how many planes can he screw up before $$$...(victim) how about the cheating mechanic going to jail for his stupidity cost someone their life (Victim). Ooops, i wasn't going to go off topic like this but it is your thread.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Trumps claim to being Republican has only come in the last few years. His political donations are pathetic, going to the worst of the worst... Harry Reid, Arlen Specter, Charlie Rangel, Chuck Schumer, and RINO John McCain. He's donated to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.. I could go on and on. He is a strong proponent for eminent domain, he is for universal health care, he's a racist, he's a male chauvinist, he's a liar... again, I could go on and on... Just know that if he is selected as the GOP candidate, Hillary will mop the floor with him.. and I'd bet everything I have on it. He is in this either as a plant by the Clinton's or he is in it for personal gain. Please don't support him, for the love of God, please don't.

WTF do his donations have to do with anything? he gave money to get bills passed. in his favor.. and it worked. he admitted that. he dont give a **** about these people. he wants to make money.

if you think hes bad you are the problem. seriously. i bet he builds a wall creates jobs and pass corporate tax cuts like we really need. you tax the rich wages go down and they take their business else where. duh! **** these people comeing here using my ******* taxes to open a business and pay no taxes.. **** the low lifes feeeding off the common middleclass and rich.

and if your here illegally get your *** out and do it the right way.. enough is enough..

NO ONE ELSE has the balls to do what trump will and he has to power to do it.. we dont need another politician we need a business man to get the economy..

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Roland,

I'll respond to your thread when I have the time to respond with appropriate thought. Don't ever worry about derailing one my threads. I like public discourse wherever it leads.

 

[wew lad 5,000+ posts]

I stopped paying attention to this discussion before I even opened this thread. Why am I still posting here? Who knows. What I do know, is Trump 2016.



'mericuhh

 

[Roland 10+ year member]

Roland,
I'll respond to your thread when I have the time to respond with appropriate thought. Don't ever worry about derailing one my threads. I like public discourse wherever it leads.

I wish i could only do the subject justice. If i could only find someone with skills to write a ... HEY Wait, what can you do for $2.00, PM me.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

WTF do his donations have to do with anything? he gave money to get bills passed. in his favor.. and it worked. he admitted that. he dont give a **** about these people. he wants to make money.if you think hes bad you are the problem. seriously. i bet he builds a wall creates jobs and pass corporate tax cuts like we really need. you tax the rich wages go down and they take their business else where. duh! **** these people comeing here using my ******* taxes to open a business and pay no taxes.. **** the low lifes feeeding off the common middleclass and rich.

and if your here illegally get your *** out and do it the right way.. enough is enough..

NO ONE ELSE has the balls to do what trump will and he has to power to do it.. we dont need another politician we need a business man to get the economy..

I find it interesting you advocate for small government but then claim how many jobs the government will create by building a wall.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I wish i could only do the subject justice. If i could only find someone with skills to write a ... HEY Wait, what can you do for $2.00, PM me.

It wouldn't be the first thread where I switched my argument mid thread. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[djvi0lent 10+ year member]

WTF do his donations have to do with anything? he gave money to get bills passed. in his favor.. and it worked. he admitted that. he dont give a **** about these people. he wants to make money.if you think hes bad you are the problem. seriously. i bet he builds a wall creates jobs and pass corporate tax cuts like we really need. you tax the rich wages go down and they take their business else where. duh! **** these people comeing here using my ******* taxes to open a business and pay no taxes.. **** the low lifes feeeding off the common middleclass and rich.

and if your here illegally get your *** out and do it the right way.. enough is enough..

NO ONE ELSE has the balls to do what trump will and he has to power to do it.. we dont need another politician we need a business man to get the economy..

Wow, you are dense. Do you not understand that he CAN NOT beat Hillary? It doesn't matter if he actually did what he claims he'd do, he can not, and will not beat Hillary. The democrats have an arsenal of dirt they are waiting to release if he gets the nomination. He's on record as being a male chauvinist.. the evidence of this alone is enough for her to win.. simply put, she will destroy him. I'm so sure of this I'll eat my socks if he gets the nomination and doesn't lose by more than 15%. And I might add that, Cruz is running his campaign exactly like Obama did in '08... using a massive grass roots campaign.. and in addition to that he's reaching out to the Christian community.

Someone mentioned Cruz sounds like a car salesman.. this is due to the fact that he has a audiographic memory... meaning if he hears something, he remembers it word for word in his head like it was an audio file.. so he can't help but sound like that.

 

[Roland 10+ year member]

WTF do his donations have to do with anything? he gave money to get bills passed. in his favor.. and it worked. he admitted that. he dont give a **** about these people. he wants to make money.
So he doesn't give a shhit about people as long as he makes money :/

if you think hes bad you are the problem. seriously.

Well there you go. i can't argue with that.

i bet he builds a wall

Since MOST of the illegal immigrants came in legally overstaying there visa... the wall is just a partial solution

creates jobs and pass corporate tax cuts like we really need. you tax the rich wages go down and they take their business else where. duh! **** these people comeing here using my ******* taxes to open a business and pay no taxes.. **** the low lifes feeeding off the common middleclass and rich.

and if your here illegally get your *** out and do it the right way.. enough is enough..

OK that's in line the other candidates also

NO ONE ELSE has the balls to do what trump will and he has to power to do it.. we don't need another politician we need a business man to get the economy..

Ahh No, He has the mouth to say anything, (if you want to know what you can expect from him look at his history, his actions not what he says)

 

As you said earlier he's been given money to politicians for decades to get favors. Dude that is politics, the worst kind of politics, and he's Very good at it. = politician

PS. He doesn't have the POWER to do anything! Because HE CAN"T BEAT HILLARY!

Please tell us who's going to vote for him? What part of the swing vote will pick Trump over Hillary? The Youth? Minorities? Women? who?

Dude, the majority of Republicans don't even like him, and can't trust him. He has the highest disapproval rating of any republican primary candidate in recent history.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Wow, you are dense. Do you not understand that he CAN NOT beat Hillary? It doesn't matter if he actually did what he claims he'd do, he can not, and will not beat Hillary. The democrats have an arsenal of dirt they are waiting to release if he gets the nomination. He's on record as being a male chauvinist.. the evidence of this alone is enough for her to win.. simply put, she will destroy him. I'm so sure of this I'll eat my socks if he gets the nomination and doesn't lose by more than 15%. And I might add that, Cruz is running his campaign exactly like Obama did in '08... using a massive grass roots campaign.. and in addition to that he's reaching out to the Christian community.
Someone mentioned Cruz sounds like a car salesman.. this is due to the fact that he has a audiographic memory... meaning if he hears something, he remembers it word for word in his head like it was an audio file.. so he can't help but sound like that.

So an audiograohic memory also impacts ones choice of hairstyle?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

By the way were you serious that you "fail to find a victim"? I was going to reply to that but you're smarter than me in many ways so I can't imagine you don't see the problems for our society that cheating in schools brings with it. ("our society, culture, country..." being the victim)

PS, At your office you are part of a team with a common goal. Supporting a the guy with the ball is teamwork and to a degree is expected. if you are not valued there you can get another job... A student in school is not a team endeavor. Just off the bat, as a retired aircarft mechanic i'm thinking. Would you like to fly on a aircraft that had a overhaul from a mechanic that cheated his way through school. (victim) How about the airline that hired him, how many planes can he screw up before $$$...(victim) how about the cheating mechanic going to jail for his stupidity cost someone their life (Victim). Ooops, i wasn't going to go off topic like this but it is your thread.

The central premise to your argument is that completion of rote exercises and grades received for such an effort is the best way to measure learning. As a person who excelled in school, I initially struggled with my first real position as I never learned how to learn...only to temporarily recall and forget after the test. The student still has an opportunity and I'd say a requirement to learn the material. Where I disagree is the method by which such learning is displayed.

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I honestly don't know anyone who wants Hilary in. i've been saving money and contemplating on leaving the US honestly. these people are so ignorant its not even funny.

I know noone likes trump. but as fucked up as this country is i don't give a **** if he lies or he ***** cats. he is what we need. the rest of these candidates ain't gonna DO ****.

you do realize both parties are ran by the same few? there this isn't a democracy? it never was. we the people do have say so on ****. hell the bush electron and 2nd obama election wasn't enough to show you that no vote means anything? lets face it. the government is a shadow. they only one going against the gain is trump. he knows he wont win. he knows they wont elect them.. hes just trying to show people that money talks bullshit walks and this goverment is beyond corrupt

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I find it interesting you advocate for small government but then claim how many jobs the government will create by building a wall.

wake up dude. the government controls the laws which mandate the amount of jobs in different regions.. if they wouldn't put there noose in the business in the firt place to have power over the free market i would be aginst it completely.

one example is the unjust laws on the coal industry and the sales of oil and gas. they passs laws that literally cost these companies which are INDEPENDENTLY operated so much money that they have to reduce wages hours and work staff to make marginal profit. ITS LATE THEY FOUND A WAY TO CONTROL IT. so all we can hope for is for the ******* pricks to leave the laws alone and let the free market thrive. which is the reason the USA is so powerful in hte first place. the people are tired of the government taking there **** but the govement is nothing without us..

i cant believe that people couldn't see obamacare was another tax on the middle class. IDIOTS.. biggest kickback SINCE they created insurance and the debt system

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Wow, you are dense. Do you not understand that he CAN NOT beat Hillary? It doesn't matter if he actually did what he claims he'd do, he can not, and will not beat Hillary. The democrats have an arsenal of dirt they are waiting to release if he gets the nomination. He's on record as being a male chauvinist.. the evidence of this alone is enough for her to win.. simply put, she will destroy him. I'm so sure of this I'll eat my socks if he gets the nomination and doesn't lose by more than 15%. And I might add that, Cruz is running his campaign exactly like Obama did in '08... using a massive grass roots campaign.. and in addition to that he's reaching out to the Christian community.
Someone mentioned Cruz sounds like a car salesman.. this is due to the fact that he has a audiographic memory... meaning if he hears something, he remembers it word for word in his head like it was an audio file.. so he can't help but sound like that.

in your defense. i'm very dense. i do apologize for not apologizing for being dense about apologizing. we clear on that?

yes i do understand the just about every major company that still does business here supports the ***** so they don't have to pay taxes and can get there **** ****** in there office and launder money etc.. thats why if trump would get elected they would do anything to try to ruin him and probably try to kill him...

why you think bill cheated on that *****? i think they where having huge orgies honestly bill just couldn't help himself... just needed a quicky