CDT..DLS..or Rainbow Audio...Who to choose??

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

so....in a way. I could get the ES620s and just buy their high end xovers? and then technically have a Z series?

also...what is active? what do you mean buy that?

Active mean you dont use the crossovers from the speaker set. You use the xovers from the HU- active mean you filter freqs digitally within the HU before they go out to the speaker before the amplifier, rather that leaving it up to a xover to filter in line with the speakers after the amplifier-this causes saturation and power loss, but at the same time some protection.

The DRZ's main use is for active setup.

Active-> each speaker requires its own channel of amplification, each gets a channel of signal from the HU. So 4 total speakers require 4ch amp for example.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

I see...so no passive crossovers? So I'd get my Es620's and basically just not install the crossovers....and then hook up the tweeters and mids to a 4 channel amp straight? isn't there a special way I'd have to run the wires?

why exactly is this better? I mean it sounds like a cool idea becuase I don't have to find a place to put the xovers. Is this better SQ too?? going active and all.

 

[purerx7tt 10+ year member]

I have a rainbow pro cs230 5.25" comps for sale. Paid 500 shipped from speed sound, i want 300+ shipping, on ly 10 hours of use. Its in the for sale section.

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

I see...so no passive crossovers? So I'd get my Es620's and basically just not install the crossovers....and then hook up the tweeters and mids to a 4 channel amp straight? isn't there a special way I'd have to run the wires?

why exactly is this better? I mean it sounds like a cool idea becuase I don't have to find a place to put the xovers. Is this better SQ too?? going active and all.

Going active is all about control. If you want a system you can install, tune and be done, DO NOT go active. It can be too much control if you know what I mean.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

and by too much control you mean to the point where you'd never be satisfied? too many options?

also...I can't find any of the RMS's and Maxes of the CDT ES602 mids and the TW-25 tweeter...i wouldn't know what 4 channel amp to get anyways!

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Exactly //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

yes if you have that clarion drz9255 i would go active to use the features that the 9255 offers that others HUs don't. Better yet really use the clarion drz9255 and go get a 3 way active frontstage. oh i wish the eclipse had that.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

3 way active frontstage??

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

i dunno if i had a clarion drz9255, i would get a 3 way frontstage and go active with it. the clarion drz9255 is the only HU to my knowledge that can support a 4 way setup (low, midbass, midrange, and high) without the use of an external processor. what i mean by 3 way active frontstage is go buy a set of tweeters, midbass and midrange. hook it up to your amp and set the crossover pts and slopes through your HU. but it seems like you don't know what active is so i dunno if i would suggest that you dont go active unless you read up more on what to do though.

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

and by too much control you mean to the point where you'd never be satisfied? too many options?

also...I can't find any of the RMS's and Maxes of the CDT ES602 mids and the TW-25 tweeter...i wouldn't know what 4 channel amp to get anyways!

No such thing as too much control...every vehicle and its dynamics are different, each vehicle presents various reflection and beaming points for a driver- why be stuck at a certain xover point? Specially when the speaker positioning will dictate where you xover points need to be to acquire proper staging/imaging.

The only reason I'm going into detail here, because apparently you dont know much on the subject- is because you are considering a $1300 HU. There's no point in buying all this high grade gear to achieve mediocre sound and not use the equipment to its potential.

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

No such thing as too much control...every vehicle and its dynamics are different, each vehicle presents various reflection and beaming points for a driver- why be stuck at a certain xover point? Specially when the speaker positioning will dictate where you xover points need to be to acquire proper staging/imaging.
The only reason I'm going into detail here, because apparently you dont know much on the subject- is because you are considering a $1300 HU. There's no point in buying all this high grade gear to achieve mediocre sound and not use the equipment to its potential.

Yeah but let the guy get a good start, then he can upgrade as he sees fit. Sure it'll end up costing more but that's what a hobby is all about.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

True. Acitve does sound a bit more complicated...but in the long run it would sound better I'm sure. I feel that the only pain in the *** part will be the tweaking and tunning..but that I can deal with. With any kind of system there will be tunning. As for putting in a 3 way component system...what kind of amp would I get for that....a 4 channel sure but.....would I wire the tweeter with the midrange together and then wire the mid bass by istelf to a channel? Also...I don't think I'd be able to put a 7 a 4 and a 1 inch tweeter all together in my door. Not enough room and i don't want to fabricate any kind of crazy kick panels. Want to keep the look stock for security reasons and "of ease" reasons. The only way I can see it working is if I take off my 6x9 speaker...then...use some MDF to make a converter...and maybe squeez in a 7 and a 4 together side by side...then put the tweeter where the other stock tweeter in the door above the arm rest and be done with it.

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

For a 3-way a 6ch. amp is an easier choice.... do a search about them, we just had a thread about good 6ch. choices.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

As far as getting that DRZ9255....yes I know its high end. I like the look of it and i'm a huge audiophile...but on a budget....thats why I'd get an expensive HU and get some O.K./Good speakers.

I have an understanding for the usual typical setups but this Active stuff is quite new to me. Didn't know you could do that to be quite honest...it would save quite a bit of trouble trying to find a place for the xovers.

Also.. I know eclipse makes crazy stuff and I have been eyeing the CD8455 becuaes I does feature some really good control over your sound and staging and image and all that stuff.

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

as for the 3 way active frontstage you probably needs some kick panels. thats what most people do for a 3 way frontstage setup. if you were going to run an 3 way active frontstage with the clarion, the clarion has 4 sets of preouts (3 for fronstage and 1 for sub) so i would get either a 6 channel amp or a 4 channel and a 2 channel to run the frontstage. or you can run two 4 channel amps. use 6 channels for the fronts and bridge the other two for subs if you want. if you don't want kick panels then i would suggest get an eclipse 8455 and run just a 2 way active fronstage.